Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux

Don Raikes DON.RAIKES at ORACLE.COM
Tue Jan 30 11:00:16 EST 2018 

Tim,

A lot of kali's tools need to be run from the GUI, My personal preference is to use the mate desktop but that is because I got started in Linux under the old gnome 2 interface and haven't gotten used to the new unity/gnome3 interface.

Unfortunately when I installed kali into a vm I couldn't get mate with orca to work, so I am trying to debug that problem.
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Breitenfeldt [mailto:timothyjb310 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 8:23 AM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup at linux-speakup.org>
Subject: Re: Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux

Hi, my apologies for not being clear in my last post. I am using Kali because I want to learn about the security tools Kali has. I will keep in mind that arch is a better option for this though.

The output of
locate speakup.ko

/lib/modules/4.12.0-kali1-amd66/kernel/drivers/staging/speakup /speakup.ko

For now, I am just looking to get eSpeak working on it, my goal is to install voxin, which is what I am using for orca right now.
Kali does have built in support for a talking installer using speakup.
I believe Kali is very similar to Debian, if that helps at all.

TJ Breitenfeldt

On 1/30/18, Don Raikes <DON.RAIKES at oracle.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Kali is an odd choice for someone just wanting a console-based linux distro.
>  Ubuntu server is another good choice.
>
> If, however you are looking for security tools then kali is a good choice.
> The kali installer is accessible since it is based on the debian 
> talking installer.  I haven't checked lately but if I remember right 
> speakup does not come pre-installed in kali, although I hope to be 
> working on a custom kali version that will be more accessible (when I have a few minutes).
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina at rednote.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 7:13 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. 
> <speakup at linux-speakup.org>
> Subject: Re: Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux
>
> So, I have to ask, why Kali Linux, specifically? It's strikes me as a 
> rather oddball choice.
>
>
> The post you reference below isn't particularly pertinent to running 
> Speakup, and you still haven't told us whether Kali comes with 
> Speakup, or whether it's on you to add it into the installation. Once 
> again, what's the output of:
>
> locate speakup.ko
>
> Suggestion: You may have much more success with a distribution like 
> Arch which supports Speakup out of the box, and which has a talking 
> installation
> available:
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__wiki.archlinux.or
> g_index.php_TalkingArch&d=DwIGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65
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>
> If you go this way you'll only have the console unless you explicitly 
> install a GUI desktop.
>
> There are other choices, but the above is a good way to get to a 
> functioning system with minimul fuss.
>
> Janina
>
> Timothy Breitenfeldt writes:
>> Thank you for the replies. I am still fairly new to using Linux, I am 
>> a computer science major and am currently taking a C and unix class 
>> right now. I now feel comfortable enough with the basics to switch to 
>> using only a shell for access. I have played with Linux for a while, 
>> and have always preferred the console over Gnome desktop GUI for 
>> accessibility. I have almost no vision, and am currently using orca.
>>
>> Here is the link to the post I referred to on getting speakup running 
>> on Kali.
>>
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linux-2Dspeakup.o
>> r 
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>>
>> I followed all of the instructions here, and saw no change. Speakup 
>> never came up talking at the bootup screen. I tried typing speakup 
>> into the terminal while in gnome, but it didn't recognize the command.
>>
>> I don't know much about the kernel yet, it is something I will learn 
>> next quarter along with other operating system concepts.
>>
>> Thank you for the tip on switching to console mode. I would assume 
>> that I can switch back to Gnome using the same shortcut I used to 
>> switched to console mode (ctrl+alt+ 1-6)?
>>
>> Can someone take a look at this post and see if you can help?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> TJ Breitenfeldt
>>
>> On 1/27/18, Kirk Reiser <kirk at reisers.ca> wrote:
>> > To answer the other portion of your query, to move from a gui 
>> > console to a text console just type control-alt-f1 or any other of 
>> > the function keys from 1 to six. You can learn to kill off gnome 
>> > and gdm at a later point if you find you're happy using console mode.
>> >
>> > On Sat, 27 Jan 2018, Okash Khawaja wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Timothy,
>> >>
>> >> Welcome to speakup :)
>> >>
>> >> There is
>> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linux-2Dspeaku
>> >> p.org_spkguide.txt&d=DwIGaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65e
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>> >> nin6X8pL2i0yU&e=
>> >> which should help.
>> >> Basically you need two kernel modules loaded. One is speakup.ko 
>> >> and the other depends upon which synthesizer you want to use. So 
>> >> for example for Apollo you'll need speakup_apollo.ko. You can also 
>> >> use software synth speakup_soft.ko if you don't have a hardware synth.
>> >> All supported synths are mentioned in spkguide linked above.
>> >>
>> >> If it's a hardware synth then the two kernel modules is all you need.
>> >> If it's speakup_soft.ko then some user-space text-to-speech 
>> >> software will be required. If you can explain where you're getting 
>> >> stuck then we can help more :)
>> >>
>> >> Cheers!
>> >> Okash
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 7:36 AM, Timothy Breitenfeldt 
>> >> <timothyjb310 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> Hi, i recently installed Kali onto an old laptop. I would really 
>> >>> like to just run Kali in console mode and completely ignore the 
>> >>> GUI .To do this, I know I need speakup. I found a couple 
>> >>> refferences in the archives for this mailing list, but I couldn't 
>> >>> get it to work with the instructions given. Does anyone have any 
>> >>> suggestions on how to get speakup running on Kali, as well as how 
>> >>> to switch from Gnome desktop to just a console?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>> TJ Breitenfeldt
>> >>> _______________________________________________
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>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__linux-2Dspeak
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>> > Well that's it then, colour me secure!
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> Janina Sajka
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