[Support] status of our new images and a request (fwd)

Sun Feb 14 22:10:01 EST 2016

In my experience, speakup works just fine on a system without
pulseaudio installed. I don't see what the complaint is about below.

Greg

On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 09:14:40PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
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> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 18:55:58
> From: kendell clark <coffeekingms at gmail.com>
> To: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger at vol.at>,
>     Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>, support at sonargnulinux.com
> Subject: Re: [Support] status of our new images and a request
> 
> hi
> We've been wanting to make one for a while. We keep running into
> either 1, issues with speakup when pulse audio is running, been
> present for years and no one will own up to it or 2, brltty, which
> can work as a console screen reader. Right now it doesn't support
> the espeak fork, called espeak-ng, which sonar has switched to
> using. It's rather embarrassing, and my own personal opinion is that
> all the blind users who care about command line access, storm comes
> to mind, should band together and bug the shit out of the speakup
> people until they fix their bug. It's actually a combination of
> speakup, and the fact that speakup runs in the kernel, which means
> it runs as root, which means it's not subject to user permissions.
> Why that means it doesn't produce sound I'm not sure, but it
> doesn't. If pulse audio isn't running this just works, but otherwise
> ... shrug.
> Thanks
> Kendell clark
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> Simon Eigeldinger via Support wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >ah sorry forgot about the command line users.
> >maybe interesting when there will be maybe some console based sonar isos.
> >
> >greetings,
> >simon
> >
> >Am 14.02.2016 um 17:40 schrieb Jude DaShiell:
> >>youtube-viewer I use on talkingarch and would install and use that if
> >>accessible in graphical environment if accessible.  When I want to
> >>search for channels in youtube-viewer I know how to do that.
> >>
> >>On Sun, 14 Feb 2016, Simon Eigeldinger via Support wrote:
> >>
> >>>Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 05:23:12
> >>>From: Simon Eigeldinger via Support <support at sonargnulinux.com>
> >>>Reply-To: Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger at vol.at>
> >>>To: support at sonargnulinux.com
> >>>Subject: Re: [Support] status of our new images and a request
> >>>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>Here's my take at the package liss:
> >>>
> >>>packages-desktop:
> >>>
> >>>maybe getting ried of:
> >>>elinks: Is someone using that? seems not to work on my system.
> >>>youtube-viewer: never used it used firefox.
> >>>rythmbox: replacing it with audacious? gtk ipod tool is installed as
> >>>well. no good solution?
> >>>
> >>>Maybe packages to be added:
> >>>veracrypt from aur: disk and container encryption tool. pretty
> >>>accessible.
> >>>audacious: maybe better than rythmbox
> >>>corebird: twitter client. pretty accessible.
> >>>
> >>>packages-gnome: no ideas what to remove or add.
> >>>
> >>>packages-mate: no ideas what to remove or add.
> >>>
> >>>greetings,
> >>>simon
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Am 14.02.2016 um 02:58 schrieb kendell clark via Support:
> >>>>hi
> >>>>Here goes. Packages-desktop, which is common packages that both gnome
> >>>>and mate use, is pasted hear.
> >>>>http://paste.pound-python.org/show/4Ykrak83Bhg4BjZF2EmH/. Packages-gnome
> >>>>can be seen hear.
> >>>>http://paste.pound-python.org/show/o03gJEMO8B4IyN81dOcw/. Packages-mate
> >>>>can be seen hear,
> >>>>http://paste.pound-python.org/show/RDbaW2X3Legc3zLOt63Y/.
> >>>>Thanks
> >>>>Kendell clark
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Hadi via Support wrote:
> >>>>>Kendell, Is it possible that you pastebin the mentioned files so we
> >>>>>could take a look at it? There are some great pastebin sites like
> >>>>>slexy.org.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On 2/13/2016 2:56 PM, kendell clark via Support wrote:
> >>>>>>hi all
> >>>>>>Well, it's been long enough. I've been working with phil and teo to
> >>>>>>improve the accessibility of calamares, but it's just not there yet
> >>>>>>so I'm going to release new gnome and mate images with our old
> >>>>>>installer, thus, instead. I've waited more than long enough and I'll
> >>>>>>write back in as soon as the 32 bit and 64 bit images are uploaded.
> >>>>>>Before I upload the images though, I want to do some serious cleanup
> >>>>>>on our software selection. I've tried installing just about every
> >>>>>>piece of software under the sun that a blind person might possibly
> >>>>>>want on the live image, mainly to show a newcomer exactly what linux
> >>>>>>can do. But I think it's more than past time to thin the selection,
> >>>>>>at least on the live images, considerably. Would all of you who can,
> >>>>>>clone our software repository and look at the Packages-Desktop file,
> >>>>>>as well as the main packages-gnome and packages-mate files and tell
> >>>>>>me what software can be cut? The image sizes are getting out of
> >>>>>>control, they've just surpassed the 2.0 gb mark, and I'd like to trim
> >>>>>>that down. To get our git repository, open a terminal and issue the
> >>>>>>following commands. Git clone
> >>>>>>https://github.com/manjaro/manjaro-tools-iso-profiles.git. Wait for
> >>>>>>it to clone, it shouldn't take too long, then change into the folder,
> >>>>>>then into the sonar folder. The packages-desktop file is shared
> >>>>>>between the gnome and mate profiles, so it's in the shared folder.
> >>>>>>The others are in the gnome and mate folders, respectively. Again,
> >>>>>>I'll write back in when the images are uploaded but I'll wait on
> >>>>>>community feedback so I know what to remove, and once I have that,
> >>>>>>I'll then build the images and upload them to sourceforge. I'm really
> >>>>>>sorry for the long delay, but I was trying to get calamares into a
> >>>>>>usable state, but it's just not there yet. Thank you all of you who
> >>>>>>have been patient and waiting for new images, it's definitely been a
> >>>>>>little more trouble than last time, that's for sure, grins.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks
> >>>>>>Kendell clark
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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