installer update was.. three small installer questions?

Sat May 19 02:53:11 EDT 2012

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On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 06:02:46PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Actually I drew the impression about how the install process worked
> from the sentence below.
> 
> 
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2012, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> 
> >
> >Ok, the debian installer itself could care less where your dectalk
> >express is, or if you even have one. All of that is taken care of by
> >speakup, which is loaded for you based on parameters you supply when
> >you get the beep, and you're at the boot prompt.

What I said and you quoted above still stands. It is speakup which
searches for and uses your synthesizer, not the debian installer,
though if I realized you would read what I said how you did, I perhaps
would have thought of phrasing what I said differently.

> 
> 
> Since to my experience at least, the installers are one and the
> same, there is even a configure the speech synthesizer option in the
> installer menu, to me sharing that debian could care less indicated
> that it would find the synthesizer once I indicated that I had one.

I wasn't aware the installer menu has an option to configure a speech
synthesizer. I don't recall the squeeze installer having such an
option, so perhaps this is something which is new. I can see why you
assumed what you did. Again, if I was aware the debian installer menus
mention anything about speech synthesizers, I would have phrased what
I said differently.

> Further, the basic command for identifying the synthesizer itself,
> the codes provided, do not state, or not initially that other
> information is needful.
> instead there is a name associate with the synthesizer type, without
> the need to specify where it is located.

This is something covered by the speakup user's guide, so reading that
should have told you what you needed to know to use speakup with a
hardware synthesizer. The information I gave you was meant to get you
started, and wasn't intended to be exhaustive in coverage. I assumed
that since you found debian documentation on-line, you would have also
gone to linux-speakup.org, and gotten the speakup user's guide from
there, if you intended to make use of speakup. 

Greg

> 
> In fact the default for the sound card, certainly different yes, but
> there none the less make no reference to the need for more
> information.
> still you indicated other data might be needful even if the
> installer, the manual and the like did not clearly do this.
> 
> Karen
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >> I don't know if the procedure for starting speakup with a hardware
> >synth is the same in wheezy as it is in squeeze, so what I'm about to
> >tell you applies to squeeze, but may not apply to boot from media which
> >is intended for wheesy. I'll just go ahead and state here what you
> >need to do to boot with a hardware synth using speakup in squeeze,
> >since the info is spread out over a couple sections of the install
> >manual, and requires more than 1 read to fully figure it out.
> >
> >1. Power up the system with the boot media in the drive, and wait for
> >  the beep (you should get one if your system has a pc speaker, which
> >  it likely does as I said before).
> >
> >2. Once you get the beep, arrow down once to choose graphical install.
> >
> >3. Hit your tab key,  hit the space bar, and type
> >
> >speakup.synth=xxx
> >
> >, and hit enter.
> >
> >The xxx is speakup's name for your synthesizer. So, for a dectalk
> >express, I believe you'd type
> >
> >speakup.synth=dectlk
> >
> >, but don't quote me on that. If all went well, you should get speech
> >from your synth 30-45 seconds after pressing enter, if not
> >earlier. HTH.
> >
> >Greg
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 09:07:14PM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> >>Hi again,
> >>Sorry very busy past day or two.  I am likely given your idea
> >>waiting too long then.  I  plan trying again tomorrow, perhaps based
> >>on your answer.
> >>for the record, as the discussion in the other associated threads
> >>demonstrates, I am not actually wanting to install wheezy at all.
> >>I have DVD images of squeeze.  however  as I cannot boot from DVD,
> >>and the cd image comes with a way to install the system on my own,
> >>my goal was to follow Samuel's steps  for installing squeeze instead
> >>once I reached the mirror archive question.  He already gave mt to
> >>understand that debian will not care where the  install data is
> >>coming from.
> >>Your confirmation that it will just skip the network  install option
> >>confirms this too. I will have to set up one manually later.
> >>I agree a thousand percent with just using  my dectalk express.
> >>How can this be done without  sighted assistants?
> >>I recall from the install manual that one uses the graphical
> >>installer, but again if debian  does not know until later in the
> >>install process where the dectalk is, what is done up to that point?
> >>Thanks again for your wisdom,
> >>Karen
> >
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