install update with questins was three small installer questions?

Fri May 18 15:12:33 EDT 2012

Hi all,
Actually the questions are more for Samuel, but I will share where I am 
now.
For the record, the synthesizer install process will be simpler in wheezy.
Gregory hit on it in advance, his steps here no longer work because you 
can install both soft and hardware speech from the boot menu in wheezy.
you choose s as Samuel indicates, where you can either accept the 
default by hitting enter, for 
installing software speech, or tab to edit.  if you edit slightly hardware 
speech gets installed instead.  By which I mean remove the word soft at 
the end of the speakup synth line.

I did not try the software speech, simply opted to since I had sighted 
help edit 
the name for the dectalk.  I must have a com 2 conflict with my machine's 
cereal port because at first speekup did not find the dectalk, when I 
moved it to com 1 though it installed.   again I did not play with it much 
due to my next problem.
Now for the question for Samuel.
As I have said from the start, I want to  install squeeze not wheezy.  I 
have an external DVD drive with the squeeze images, but cannot boot from 
that drive.  such is why we burned the cd of wheezy, that and the chance 
to install software speech, and therefore to try and   do the install on 
my own.
the thing is that after one chooses language, English for me, country, 
Canada for me, and the keyboard, there is no archive mirror choice for me 
to work with at all.  the system starts loading the rest of the installer 
from the cd, the effort to use '<' as Samuel shares in order to return to 
the boot menu does not work at all, nor does hitting escape.
the first thing done after  I cannot get to a point where I could lower 
the 
priority and choose to install  squeeze  is an intense effort to install 
the network card.  it does make this effort, you must choose none of the 
above from the list, tell it that you do not have drivers in another 
media,  then by pass where it moves on to a dizzying list of 
components. if I remember correctly, I hit the escape key or we chose 
something else on the components page  where I 
was taken to a list of install steps to choose from.  again though there is 
no reference whatsoever to the "archive mirror" choice Samuel mentioned. 
My guess is because of the cd from, because that place falls in the order 
of steps, after the keyboard choice and before the network card one.
Again I have no network to work with so must be able to choose the 
install media 
and apparently Debian  cares a great deal how I start this. 
In retrospect, I cannot say with 100% certainty if there is such an archive 
mirror choice on the same boot menu where one can choose to install 
speech.  Oh this is liste in the install steps now too. 
I am not sure that I asked that specific question.  I did ask if it was 
among the install steps, after keyboard, but it does not appear.
so, how can I firmly after installing the keyboard exit the process and 
change from internal cd to external dvd?  or is there a way to make this 
choice before I even choose language country and keyboard?
or is the install steps page where I would lower the priority an if so 
where?

Thanks again,
Karen

On Tue, 24 Apr 2012, Gregory Nowak wrote:

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> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 12:18:35AM -0400, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> so, in theory, how long would it normally take for the system to
>> reach the boot menu of the installer?  I may be pressing s too soon,
>
> I would say 20-30 seconds from the time you power on the system. If
> you can hear the cd-rom drive spin, then that would narrow it down to
> somewhere around 5-10 seconds once the cd-rom drive starts to spin and
> read the disk. Others here may be able to give you a better estimate
> of the time.
>
>> not sure where the beep would come from without a speaker, or if
>> there even is a PC speaker.
>
> Your system is more likely to have a pc speaker than not.
>
>>  Since the installer is checking on things, this might take a while.
>> Second, as I said above there is a network card in the machine, but
>> I am between providers and dsl modems just now.  the network check
>> seems later in the install process, but will I be able to bypass
>> this test or might everything freeze trying to conduct it?  The
>> installer may seek the network ard as hardware even before giving me
>> the boot menu options perhaps?
>
> I don't think I've ever run across a distribution installer yet that
> checks networking hardware before doing anything else. The lack of a
> network connection won't give you trouble. The installer will just
> determine that you're not connected to a network, and move on, nothing
> should freeze.
>
>>
>> Last of all, I am using the wheezy software speech <or trying to
>> lol> for the install but as I have a dectalk express may want to
>> change to this for speech once i Manage to install debian.  I do not
>> want to try this before, who know the software voice might be
>> understandable.
>
> I haven't installed debian past squeeze, but assume that speakup in
> the installer you're using still supports hardware synthesizers. If
> that's the case, I would strongly recommend using a hardware serial synth if you
> have that option. You will find that much easier than unmuting your
> sound cards (if that's why you're stuck) given that you're a
> beginner. I've been a gnu/linux user for over 10 years now, and would
> still choose to install using a hardware synth if I had that option,
> especially if getting software speech going was proving problematic.
>
>> still will I be able to configure this  change later, once the
>> system is up and running?
>
> Yes, you'll be able to do that, but you'll need to be able to use an
> editor, and rebuild your initrd if you want speech ASAP after boot. If
> you use the hardware synth during install as I suggested above, this
> is one more thing you won't have to worry about.
>
> Greg
>
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