espeakup and sound cards?

Steve Holmes steve at
Fri Mar 4 22:21:17 EST 2011

I'll tell you what you do.  Ditch pulse Audio, as you appaaarently
have already done.  Yeah, I thought about trying -system option but if
it is that unstable, I'll just forget it.

I've heard all these claims that it is supposed to be more secure to
have all the sound stuff done at the user level but like you say, that
doesn't help with pre-login type activities or even switching consoles
for that matter.  This debate has gone round and round on the
speech-dispatcher list too.

On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 07:03:25PM -0800, David Csercsics wrote:
> This is not the fault of your sound card. Leave the SB Live in if you feel
> you get better quality than you'd get with your onboard card. The problem
> is that pulseaudio pukes on anything which doesn't have a Master and PCM
> control. I can probably dig up a post or 12 from the pulseaudio developers
> stating that they only regularly test with cards using the snd-hda-intel
> module. Pulseaudio gets confused if it has to deal with something that
> doesn't follow the high definition audio standard.  It doesn't let the
> user directly adjust the hardware volumes unless the user wants to do
> a lot of fiddling around with the alsa mixer controls before he starts
> pulseaudio for the first time. Have a look at your friendly search
> engine for pulseaudio on m-audio delta cards for example or pulseaudio
> on USB speakers. I gave up on pulseaudio after I tried it a while back
> and found distortion and a lot of clipping and most problematic was all
> the crashes. If someone would like to correct me for being wrong because
> I've not broke my system using a current pulseaudio setup then feel
> free. What I don't understand is how pulseaudio is supposed to interact
> with espeakup because that usually needs to be run as root? Pulseaudio
> doesn't like to run as root. When I tried it before I was informed that
> most of my crashes were caused by me running the daemon in system mode
> and I needed to be running pulseaudio as a regular user. So what do we
> do for sound at the login prompt?
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