If bash can, why not Speakup?

[Janina Sajka]

Steve, that would sure drive me crazy. In fact I doubt I'd be willing to
live with it.

All I can tell you is that it ain't happenin to me. I was having an
issue in vim where Speakup would read the char I left plus the new char
I had just written, but this wnet away entirely when I switched back to
iso 8859-1.


Janina

Steve Holmes writes:
> I realize the more this gets talked about, the more diluted it
> probably becomes.  When I insert text with Vim or when I insert text in a command
> line in Bash, speakup speaks everything following in that line.  I'm
> sure this is because screen contents are being changed ans speakup
> reflects this.  However, The old vi editor (probably elvis or
> something) doesn't seem to exhibit this behavior but vim does.  I
> usually have cursoring on when I do this.  I don't remember if this
> changes when it is turned off.
> 
> Another thing that would help speakup behave better with curses type
> applications would be to add support for user defined windows where
> parts of the screen could be spoken or blocked.  This would be like
> what is available in Vocal-Eyes and Window-Eyes for that matter.  This
> is obviously a big project and I think it would be fun to add but not
> sure how well that would work in a kernel based program.
> 
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 07:48:38PM -0500, Albert Sten-Clanton wrote:
> > In addition to the suggestion below, I'd very much like to hear the
> > characters I'm backspacing over.  I asked about this a few years ago, but I
> > gathered that this wasn't easy to do.  Any thoughts?
> > 
> > Al 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca]
> > On Behalf Of William Hubbs
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 6:31 PM
> > To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca
> > Subject: Re: If bash can, why not Speakup?
> > 
> > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 09:23:29AM +1000, pj at pjb.com.au wrote:
> > > Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > I've been happily using vim for years.
> > > 
> > > How do you cope with the endlessly-updating bottom line?, like:
> > >  "497L, 15593C                             450,2         93%"
> > > 
> > > I find speakup is in general difficult with curses applications 
> > > because of their screen-update optimisation.  The characters don't 
> > > necessarily come out in a text-related order.
> > 
> > You can disable that line by putting the following line in your
> > ~/.vimrc:
> > 
> > set noruler
> > 
> > > > My biggest complaint is that I need to be ultra-careful to track 
> > > > whether I'm in insert or command mode, i.e. it would sure help if 
> > > > Speakup could give me a differently pitched voice
> > > 
> > > Good point :-)  It might need some help from the vim folk...
> > 
> > Yes, something like this would take modifications to vim to make it
> > communicate to speakup some how, and I'm not sure what that would involve
> > since I haven't looked at the vim code at all.
> > 
> > William
> > 
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