If bash can, why not Speakup?

[Steve Holmes]

I realize the more this gets talked about, the more diluted it
probably becomes.  When I insert text with Vim or when I insert text in a command
line in Bash, speakup speaks everything following in that line.  I'm
sure this is because screen contents are being changed ans speakup
reflects this.  However, The old vi editor (probably elvis or
something) doesn't seem to exhibit this behavior but vim does.  I
usually have cursoring on when I do this.  I don't remember if this
changes when it is turned off.

Another thing that would help speakup behave better with curses type
applications would be to add support for user defined windows where
parts of the screen could be spoken or blocked.  This would be like
what is available in Vocal-Eyes and Window-Eyes for that matter.  This
is obviously a big project and I think it would be fun to add but not
sure how well that would work in a kernel based program.

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 07:48:38PM -0500, Albert Sten-Clanton wrote:
> In addition to the suggestion below, I'd very much like to hear the
> characters I'm backspacing over.  I asked about this a few years ago, but I
> gathered that this wasn't easy to do.  Any thoughts?
> 
> Al 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of William Hubbs
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 6:31 PM
> To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: If bash can, why not Speakup?
> 
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 09:23:29AM +1000, pj at pjb.com.au wrote:
> > Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > I've been happily using vim for years.
> > 
> > How do you cope with the endlessly-updating bottom line?, like:
> >  "497L, 15593C                             450,2         93%"
> > 
> > I find speakup is in general difficult with curses applications 
> > because of their screen-update optimisation.  The characters don't 
> > necessarily come out in a text-related order.
> 
> You can disable that line by putting the following line in your
> ~/.vimrc:
> 
> set noruler
> 
> > > My biggest complaint is that I need to be ultra-careful to track 
> > > whether I'm in insert or command mode, i.e. it would sure help if 
> > > Speakup could give me a differently pitched voice
> > 
> > Good point :-)  It might need some help from the vim folk...
> 
> Yes, something like this would take modifications to vim to make it
> communicate to speakup some how, and I'm not sure what that would involve
> since I haven't looked at the vim code at all.
> 
> William
> 
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