ot, spamassassin question

[John G. Heim]

You're welcome. I'm just glad I could help for once instead of being helped.

One additional note... To get over the 200 message threshold, you might try 
running sa-learn on the messages in the spam folder. I'm guessing you have 
procmail putting messages marked as spam into a spam folder. Make sure they 
really are all spam and then feed those messages to sa-learn.  Messages 
marked as spam won't be used by the auto learn feature unless their spam 
score is really high in the first place.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg at romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: ot, spamassassin question


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> Ok, I think I figured it out, thanks John for reminding me of
> sa-learn's --dump flag. It's a combination of 2 problems. The first
> problem is that yes, I really am a moron. When I was running the
> spam/ham learning script out of /etc/cron.daily, I was searching
> through my mom's saved ham, and spam. However, I forgot to add the
> - --dbpath option to sa-learn when calling it in the script. The result
> is that I happen to have a /root/.spamassassin directory now, with the
> files bayes_seen  bayes_toks in it. I've had a look at the sa-learn
> man page, but don't see a way to merge that data with the data in my
> mom's .spamassassin directory, that was collected through
> autolearning. I can backup the data from /root/.spamassassin/*, but I
> don't see a way to append it to the existing data in my mom's
> directory. If someone knows of a way to do that, without destroying
> the data already there, please let me know.
>
> The second problem is that my mom's database contains less than 200
> messages of either ham, or spam. When I said she's had more than a
> couple thousand messages come through, I really did think that. So,
> I'm either wrong on that figure, and that many didn't come in, or not
> enough of them were autolearned from. If I were to merge somehow the 2
> sets of data, she still wouldn't have 200 of either one, but she'd be
> a lot closer there as far as ham is concerned.
>
> BTW John, thanks for that small perl script. Yes, the bayse plugin is
> installed, or at least I assume it is, since I just got the shell
> prompt back after running it. Thanks a lot again John for your help in
> troubleshooting this, I really appreciate it.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 04:33:05PM -0600, John G. Heim wrote:
>> Well, I'm not sure about the bayesian plugin module but I know
>> spamassassin checks for some modules before trying to load them and if
>> they aren't available the features they are used for just don't work. So
>> I suppose it's possible that spamassassin would just go on merrily
>> checking messages even if the bayesian plugin is missing.
>>
>> Man, now you're really testing my memory. There is a way to run the
>> spamassassin service in the foreground so you can see its output. It
>> displays a list of perl modules it looked for and whether it found them.
>> I think if you just say, 'man spamassassin' you can find that.
>>
>> But otherwise you can also check if the module is there in the perl
>> interpreter itself. Just type 'perl' at the command line and then 'Use
>> Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Bayes ;' Or you could write a quick script to
>> do it:
>>
>> #!/usr/bin/perl
>> use Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::Bayes;
>>
>> If the above 2 line script works, then the plugin is installed.   If you
>> installed spamassassin via a package manager, I would think all necessary
>> perl modules would be installed as dependencies.   It doesn't seem likely
>> to me that the plugin would be missing.
>
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