rfc: speakup's character and punctuation processing

[covici at ccs.covici.com]

Well, if you try to use the exception dictionaries for all the hardware
synths, this could become much more tricky whereas if you have speakup
do it its the same for all synths.  Also, it would mean that the
definition of most, some or all would be different for each synth,
creating more confusion.  However a direct option for hardware synths as
well as the software one would not be a bad idea.

William Hubbs <w.d.hubbs at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Alex,
> 
> I think we can provide the same thing by moving the pronunciation
> control to the synth's exception dictionary instead of having speakup
> do it.
> 
> What advantages do you see in having speakup control the punctuation and
> character processing instead of having the synth do it?
> 
> William
> 
> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 05:22:42PM -0500, Alex H. wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I think there should be an option just to toggel "controlled by synth'
> > or 'controlled by speakup', there are advantages to both.
> > 
> > Alex
> > 
> > On 4/25/10, William Hubbs <w.d.hubbs at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Greg,
> > >
> > > an exception dictionary would be a good idea, but I'm thinking that we
> > > should put that at the synthesizer level.  AFAIK, this is supported by
> > > the hardware synths right?
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 02:31:13PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote:
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> > >> I'd say to just let the synthesizer deal with pronunciation, though
> > >> the best of both worlds would be to allow the user to switch among
> > >> both options, perhaps by loading a pronunciation dictionary to
> > >> somewhere under /sys/accessibility/speakup, as is done with chartab
> > >> and friends now.
> > >>
> > >> Greg
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 04:23:19PM -0500, William Hubbs wrote:
> > >> > All,
> > >> >
> > >> > speakup does a number of things to have all of the characters and
> > >> > punctuation marks pronounced the same way for all of the synthesizers it
> > >> > supports instead of allowing the synthesizers to process them.
> > >> >
> > >> > The disadvantage of this is primarily obvious for internationalization.
> > >> > We are forcing English pronunciations instead of allowing the
> > >> > synthesizer to pronounce things in the correct language.
> > >> >
> > >> > For the softsynth, there is a direct option, which  passes things
> > >> > straight to the synthesizer.  I am wondering though if we should  just
> > >> > get rid of all of the character and punctuation processing that is part
> > >> > of speakup and allow the synthesizer to handle this?
> > >> >
> > >> > This is just an idea right now.  I am not planning on doing this without
> > >> > discussion; I am wondering at this point what others think.
> > >> >
> > >> > So, your input is welcome.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> >
> > >> > William
> > >> >
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