Trouble Compiling modules/kernel

Thu Jan 8 13:47:52 EST 2009

Hi, yes having linux-speakup.org as a wiki would really be nice.  I also 
agree that there would need to be some form of control or a maintainer for 
the wiki.  This way people could post documentation in the form of wiki 
pages and could change or remove their own pages if they chose.  The list 
archives are nice but there are a lot of them and if someone wants to look 
for something it is not the easiest thing to search threw years of archives 
to find one answer.  A frequently asked questions on the linux-speakup.org 
with common answers would also be nice for those of us who like reading 
them.  When I find a new program or service on the internet I usually start 
by reading the frequently asked questions first as my question is probably 
answered in there or a close answer is in it if not the exact answer.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg at romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: Trouble Compiling modules/kernel


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> On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 12:48:54PM +0900, Kerry Hoath wrote:
>> I must say i'm mystified as to why most people seem to want to "get rid
>> of" the distribution kernel; fearing that it is bloated and overloaded.
>
> Well, here are my own reasons for it:
>
> 1. I'm currently running 2.6.27.8, while debian still seems to be
>   providing 2.6.26. I'll grant that this isn't a big deal for me, but
>   it relates to my second reason for still building my own kernel.
>
> 2. When I started building the 2.6.x.x series on this hardware,
>   speakup still had to be built into the kernel in those days. This
>   meant that I had to build my own kernel if I wanted something
>   fairly recent (both linux, and speakup), and if I was going to do
>   that, I might as well customize it to my hardware, and only include
>   the support I know I need.
>
> Once we move into the 2.7.x series, or the 3.x series, (whatever is
> coming next), where previous experience dictates that you can't use
> your current .config file fairly painlessly, I plan to go with the
> distro-provided kernels than. To summarize, as long as I don't need to
> extensively modify my .config file to build a newer kernel, and as
> long as I can get a newer kernel than what the distro provides if I
> want to do that, I see no reason not to do it, that's my personal choice.
>
>> If everyone documented what they did as they did it and submitted it to
>> the site then we wouldn't have these problems to anywhere this degree.
>
> The problem here is that the information is scattered through the list
> archives, since there are a good number of us who post instructions on
> how to do this or that, a lot of times, more than once. This info is
> however not on the site, because Kirk has much better things to do
> than maintain the web pages, and nobody from the community, it seems,
> wants to take on the job, which I frankly can't altogether
> fault. maintaining a web site is a big job to do for one person,
> especially if it's done as a volunteer, and not as a paid
> employee. When you throw 2 or more people into the mix, say assigning
> person 1 to this section of the site, and person 2 to another section,
> this is a big responsibility for each of those people also, and has
> the potential to lead to a conflict, since person 1 may not like the
> way person 2 wants to do things.
>
> My own suggestion therefore would be to turn linux-speakup.org into a
> wiki, where those who want to help can do so, without having to take
> on the responsibility for the entire site, or a section, if they don't
> want to. I personally would have no problem expanding the wiki here,
> and there whenever I had the chance to do so, but I couldn't commit to
> be responsible for an entire site, or even a certain section of it, if
> I had to be the single person who made sure that it stays up to date
> all the time. Of course, it would be best if those who wanted to
> contribute got a login account, as opposed to a free-for-all, and
> ideally, there should be a team who would monitor the contents once a
> while for quality control, and accuracy. So Kirk, and others, how
> about something like apt-get install phpwiki (since I believe Kirk is
> running debian on linux-speakup.org), any thoughts?
>
> Greg
>
>
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