Mutt and Gmail

Steve Holmes steve at holmesgrown.com
Mon Oct 27 18:29:00 EDT 2008 

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It sounds like simple-smtp may be quite similar to msmtp.  Do you use
it for both your normal and gmail?  I could probably do a similar
thing here and completely remove exim but I think exim might be needed
to support auto services like cron and other system utils that may
generate e-mail such as debsecan.

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 04:24:44PM -0400, Christopher Moore wrote:
> Hello,
> Here I'm using getmail and simple-smtp to handle receiving and sending 
> mail.  For gmail, I have mutt set up to use imap.  It seems to be 
> working fine for me.  I found an article on how to set it up.  I have a 
> special config file for gmail which I call gmail-mutt.  When I want to 
> use gmail I run mutt like this:
> mutt -F gmail-mutt
> 
> For a single user system, sendmail and exim4 are overkill even though 
> you can get them to work.
> 
> Chris
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 08:41:17AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
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> > I never got therror concerning a mak database for exim.  I looked in
> > the README files under the /usr/share/doc/exim4 for my instructions.
> > Sorry, but right now I forget what I used to configure it; I suppose
> > it was dpkg-reconfigure.  Sorry, I'm new to Debian so am still
> > bouncing off the walls a bit.  I was a slackware user for over ten
> > years so am more used to editing strait files.  I didn't find the docs
> > to be all that confusing though.  In fact, one of the options in the
> > config script enables me to hide the local machine name from my
> > outgoing addresses and smart host over to my main mail server for non
> > gmail activities.
> > 
> > As for configuring exim to have two different smart hosts depending on
> > what from address was used, that goes way over my head and I doubt any
> > debconf scripts cover that.  Plus AFAIK, exim doesn't handle ssl/tls
> > encryption so that's why the need for either msmtp or mutt's internal
> > smtp support.  Both of these latter items support gmail.  In fact, it
> > is just recent that I ran into the situation that started this thread
> > and that is mutt can't find any authenticators now when I use the
> > internal smtp support but I can get them through msmtp OK.  Mutt's
> > smtp support works great on my laptop which is still running under
> > slackware 12.0.
> > 
> > Chuck, I don't use fetchmail or getmail on this box.  I use Gmail's
> > IMAP support directly in Mutt.  It works pretty good too.
> > 
> > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 09:47:15AM -0500, Alonzo wrote:
> > > Hello chuck,
> > >
> > > I would like to use my AIM address for sending mail, however... i'm not  
> > > exactly sure how to configure exim4 using debconf. I'm confused with the  
> > > questions. so I've removed it for now until I have better documentation.
> > > Also when I start up debian lenny, it complains about send mailno make  
> > > database that i have to build it by hand. Anyone know what that's about?
> > >
> > > Alonzo
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Hallenbeck" <chuckh at ftml.net>
> > > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:16 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Mutt and Gmail
> > >
> > >
> > >> Steve,
> > >>
> > >> I use mutt too, but have always let it hand the outgoing stuff off to
> > >> exim4 for handling. Exim4 spools the outgoing items, so it you often
> > >> send with attachments, you don't have to wait while your MUA completes
> > >> the send. You also have /etc/email-addresses and /etc/aliases to help
> > >> adjusting your return address and routing your arrivals. If you have
> > >> not already done so, you might want to consider getmail to replace
> > >> fetchmail, if you are using it.
> > >>
> > >> Chuck
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 08:26:46PM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
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> > >>> I looked at the exim logs and gmail was not mentioned anywhere;
> > >>> besides, I have mutt configured to go to gmail directly.  These later
> > >>> versions of mutt allow for direct smtp with appropriate ssl/tls
> > >>> encryption.  I don't know, but I fell back to using msmtp for the
> > >>> transport functions like I used to use and that works fine.  I wonder
> > >>> if it's got to do with the way mutt was configured/compiled for debian
> > >>> or what.  At least it works now even if I have to use an external
> > >>> component to move the mail.  Thanks for the idea though.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 02:56:46PM -0400, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote:
> > >>> > Steve,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > You are probably using exim4 to send your mail to a smart host. Look
> > >>> > at:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > /etc/exim4/passwd.client
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Chuck
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:52:45AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
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> > >>> > > I've had mutt set up to work with gmail for some time now and all and
> > >>> > > all, it has worked quite well.  But lately after installing Debian
> > >>> > > some time after that I keep getting an error when trying to send mail
> > >>> > > to the gmail smtp server.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > No authenticators available
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I've checked out all the ssl and tls related packages; I can read 
> > >>> > > mail
> > >>> > > from gmail but I just can't seem to send anymore.  Are there any
> > >>> > > mutt/gmail users out there who might be able to shed a light on this
> > >>> > > matter?
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