I've been sitting here trying to figure out about old fans and new ones. I suppose they are both pretty cool, but the question is, which kind blows more hot air? Maybe Kirk could clarify that. It's his fans, after all. New Year silliness, Chuck -- The Moon is Waning Gibbous (88% of Full) But you can get a few downloads from http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh