off topic: accessibility with mac stuff?

[Jane Lee]

John, there are many such lists.  Apple also has a spoken VoiceOver
guide on their accessibility site http://apple.com/accessibility

You'll find mostly developer lists on http://lists.apple.com, and like
someone here mentioned, there's also mailing lists for blind mac users
at http://www.macvisionaries.com/mailinglists.php.  There's also some
at the macintosh guy's website - http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/

A google search for them will probably come up with a lot.  There's
probably a chance there will be some Mac related lists over at gmane,
MARC or mail-archives.com too.

Cheers
jane