An idea,

[Kelly Prescott]

A Xserver for windows and one for Linux are 2 different beasts...
Windows servers use windows toolbox calls to do there work, and that is 
where your screen reader is hooked.
it is like comparing apples to keewee fruit.
They can both be eaten, but they are nothing alike.
kp



On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, John covici wrote:

> Well, I am not sure how it worked, but I once tried an X server for
> windows which was able to figure out the controls under Linux and my
> windows screen reader was able to read them after a fashion, so I
> wonder if there is some window information passed to the Xserver after
> all.
>
> on Wednesday 07/27/2005 Kelly Prescott(prescott at deltav.org) wrote
> > hmm, a interesting concept...
> > The problem is that by the time the x server sees most of the stuff, it is
> > just screen position renderings.  The server does not have a concept of
> > letters, characters, etc.
> > The server knows where you click on a screen, for example, but it just
> > sends the information to the under lying application which is responsible
> > for deciding if you have clicked on a button etc.
> > This is a over simplified explaination, but for our purposes, it will
> > do...
> > Bottom line is that what ever toolbox, library, wigit set, rendering app,
> > or what ever, it must feed the textual information to some interface for
> > the screen reader to get at it so it can be read.
> > Hope this helps.
> > kp
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Lorenzo Taylor wrote:
> >
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> > > Here's another idea, maybe no one has thought of it yet, or maybe it is
> > > impossible to implement, but here it goes.
> > >
> > > It seems that the existing approaches for X screen readers should be taking a
> > > look at Speakup as a model.  Gnopernicus, for example, is using libraries that
> > > rely on certain information ent by the underlying application libraries.
> > > Unfortunately, this implementation causes only some apps to speak while others
> > > which use the same widgets but whose libraries don't send messages to the
> > > accessibility system will not speak.  But it occurs to me that X is simply a
> > > protocol by which client applications send messages to a server which renders
> > > the proper text, windows, buttons and other widgets on the screen.  I believe
> > > that a screen reader that is an extension to the X server itself, (like Speakup
> > > is a set of patches to the kernel) would be a far better solution, as it could
> > > capture everything sent to the server and correctly translate it into humanly
> > > understandable speech output without relying on "accessibility messages" being
> > > sent from the client apps.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts on this would be welcome.
> > >
> > > Lorenzo
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