Here maybe a solution to speech in X Windows:

[Saqib Shaikh]

I very very much doubt this.  It's the same story with Windows, Osx, Gnome
and Java:
* If the developer uses standard GUI components like buttons and check
boxes, there's no problem.
* If the developer creates a new type of GUI control, like a 27 state check
box then they must use the provided APIs to specify what the control is
displaying, and also allow another program to change its sate.  Java, the
Win32API, Apple's Carbon/Cocoa, and GTK all provide this functionality.
* If an application uses custom GUI controls, and does not use the
accessibility API provided, then it is not officially accessible.  However a
screen reader may be able to capture video signals sent to the graphics
card, and figure out what's happening.  This is what JAWS, Window Eyes and
Hal do.  However, I am sure that the Gnome and Osx developers would prefer
people to use the accessibility API rather than hacking the system like is
necessary under Windows.
S
Aqib Shaikh


-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces at braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Sean Murphy
Sent: 24 March 2004 04:50
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Here maybe a solution to speech in X Windows:

Hi Janina

One question?

1.  Is apple planning in the future to introduce alternative solutions for
those developers who aren't going to use the Accessibility objects of the
Apple development environment?

If not, then the product is going to be limited to applications that follow
Apples Accessibility specs.  This could be very limiting in the long term.
I will say that they have taken the right approach, that is including the
accessibility as part of the develpment environment, instead of the MSAA
approach.

Sean

----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: Here maybe a solution to speech in X Windows:


> Alex Snow writes:
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> > osx is bsd-based so x runs on it.
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> True, but the fact that X runs on it doesn't make it accessible. Once
again, the voice interface Apple is building relies on applications using
the Apple developer tools according to spec. Where they go off spec, those
apps will not be accessible. Here's the headline, X is not developed with
that toolkit.
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> Do you understand this yet?
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