you can change it back after the speechd_up compile btw u need also to apt-get install libdotconf-dev or speechd_up will not compile. hth -- Shaun Oliver "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person." email: shaun.oliver at optusnet.com.au WEB: http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/ IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:6666 IRCNICK: blindman