redhat problems

[Lorenzo Prince]

Actually, it would be cool if it could be a choice to either compile it in
the kernel or as a module.  A modularized speakup may be more widely
adopted by companies like Redhat, but would lack some of the things we
have come to love about Speakup, such as being able to hear all the boot
messages or to scroll back the console through them.  However, at the same
time, patching it directly into the kernel gives us all the things we
love, but can sometimes cause instabilities and could even distabilize the
kernel, which looks rather unattractive to major companies like Redhat,
who's sighted customers need to be able to trust the reliability of their
kernel as much as we do.  This problem has been solved in a way by
Slackware, who gives us a precompiled Speakup kernel, but the kernel
source is the official kernel.org source without speakup, but is available
for our patching.  Other companies may not want to include 20+ kernels on
their CD's.  Those who use only one kernel need a choice to either include
Speakup in the kernel or as a module, whichever one they feel would
benefit all their customers the most.

Lorenzo

E Pluribus Unix

Luke Davis staggered into view and mumbled:

> I agree with that.  However, there are several things in the stock kernel,
> that do not have modularized versions.  This then, begs the question: are
> they pulling those drivers?
>
> Luke
>
>
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2003, Thomas D. Ward wrote:
>
> > Hi, you must understand the removal of speakup was strictly technical by
> > nature. Allot of the people on list are out to get Red Hat for pulling
> > speakup when there are technical issues that need and should be resolved.
> > One technical issue I agree with Red Hat on is a moduler version of speakup
> > as rather than the current way speakup is compiled into the kernel direct.
> > If I had the time and patients to do so I would do so myself, but it really
> > is a big undertaking to modulerize speakup.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Nick Gawronski <nick at nickgawronski.com>
> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 5:25 PM
> > Subject: redhat problems
> >
> >
> > >       Hi, We must do something about all of these problems with redhat.
> > > Think about it, rh8 had speakup and it was working just fine but look what
> > > has happend rh9 is here and we don't have speakup yet the
> > > readme-accessibility file is in 9 that says that redhat wants to make
> > > their products accessible.  Well, I don't think that they are beeing very
> > > nice about this at all.  If they removed speakup they should of removed
> > > readme-accessbility as well.  We must contact redhat and find out "why did
> > > you remove speakup yet leave readme-accessibility"  That is what we need
> > > to do about this.  Who says they have a right to put speakup in one
> > > version then take it away.  Think about this because we can make them put
> > > it back in to their product.  bye
> > >
> > >
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