Hi all, It is true that Emacspeak will not come on at startup, and it will not do some things that speakup will do. But for things related to words and editing, emacspeak can't be beat! Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT