interesting experiment.

Tue May 21 22:31:16 EDT 2002

If a hardware sinthesizer, is the only solution for a screen reader, I will
use the DecTalk.
But I don't want to use the Dec talk with that crappy emacspeak.
It is not a real screen reader, and I've just seen that it is not
recommended to work with emacspeak and programs like lynx.

So why I should choose a bad voice and a bad talking environment?

Teddy,
orasnita at home.ro

----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: interesting experiment.

Octavian:

Are you aware how inconsistant you are? Do you realize how
discouraging that is to someone who might want to help you out
and give you advice? Do you realize that it means you won't be
taken seriously?

If you hate the sound of the old DEC Talk when you use it with
emacspeak, why would you like it were you able to use it with
Speakup? It would still have the same sound and all those noises
you were complaining about two days ago.

Are you serious about Linux, or are you just here to cause
trouble? You act like you're not serious.

On Mon, 20 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote:

> No, you're right.
> I don't use speakup though I would like to.
> I've read on speakup web page that there is working in progress for making
> the Dec Talk PC 1 card  accessible for speakup and I've subscribed hoping
> that I will find out if there is support or not. Or if there it will ever
> be.
>
>
> Teddy,
> orasnita at home.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg at romualt.dhs.org>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 7:25 AM
> Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
>
>
> We're all assuming he's using speakup since he's here. But from all of
> Tedy's comments in other posts, I am beginning to get the impression that
> he's not, since he seems to be asking for screen readers which support
> software tts.
> Greg
>
>
> On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 10:58:09PM -0400, Deedra Waters wrote:
> > Try man < emacs|less then use the speakup keys to read line by line, or
> > word by word if you wish. you can bring up the next page by hitting the
> > space bar.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 20 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> >
> > > Please enlighten me.
> > > I never used the Jaws cursor in the new HTML help  format under
Windows.
> > > Select an item in the tree view, press enter, then press F6 and it
will
> > > automaticly start reading that help item. It is a simple HTML file
> there,
> > > and it works exactly as simple as Internet Explorer.
> > > You don't need the Jaws cursor at all.
> > >
> > > You needed the Jaws cursor only for some bad designed help files in
the
> old
> > > .hlp format.
> > > Now in the new .chm format, you don't have any problems.
> > >
> > > But this doesn't matter too much. Please tell me how to navigate the
man
> > > pages.
> > > I type man mv, for example.
> > > It starts to print all the help file, but maybe I want to move with a
> page
> > > up then down, etc.
> > >
> > > I know this is possible. Thanks.
> > > Teddy,
> > > orasnita at home.ro
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Shaun Oliver" <shaun_oliver at optusnet.com.au>
> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 8:05 AM
> > > Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
> > >
> > >
> > > SNIP
> > > > > You open a window, and it explains you what you should do there.
> > > > > You have to press the space bar to check some checkboxes, to press
> some
> > > > > buttons, etc, and if you don't know something, press shift+f10 (or
> the
> > > right
> > > > > mouse button and choose "what's this?" or press F1 to view the
help
> file
> > > > > wich is much much more easier to navigate than the man pages under
> > > Linux.
> > > SNIP
> > >
> > > A fake.
> > > man pages under GNU/Linux are a lot easier to navigate than windows
help
> > > pages.
> > > you need to route the jaws cursor to the pc and then fart around
trying
> to
> > > find what you were looking for.
> > > even with the new features in jfw I seriously doubt you could navigate
a
> > > help file easier than a man page..
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
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