interesting experiment.
Octavian Rasnita
orasnita at home.ro
Tue May 21 03:44:02 EDT 2002
It would be great. I've seen on speakup site that it is work in progress,
and I've asked on the list.
Somebody even told me that there is support available for DecTalk PC1
internal, but I see that it is not true unfortunately.
Support for a software sinthesizer, like Via Voice would be great.
Teddy,
orasnita at home.ro
----- Original Message -----
From: "Charles Crawford" <ccrawford at acb.org>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
This is one major reason for us getting internal speech through
speakup. We will get there.
-- charlie.
At 12:48 AM 5/20/02 -0400, you wrote:
> From some of the comments he's made both on and off list I get the
>impression that money is a major issue. meaning that he 1 can't afford to
>get a new synth to fully use speakup and 2 he can't afford to pay for
>software either.
>
>
>
>On Mon, 20 May 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:
>
> > Greg:
> >
> > I'm pretty sure he isn't using Speakup. He doesn't have a
> > supported synth. He telnets from his Windows machine, as I
> > recall, and he's tried using ViaVoice directly with emacspeak. Of
> > course, the latter is a very steep learning curve.
> >
> > Still, he's got the DEC Talk internal, and emacs with or without
> > emacspeak is worth learning. Without emacspeak, he can run it
> > over telnet--but I doubt JFW is all that great as a telnet
> > client's screen review program. Also, the default Microsoft
> > telnet is pretty lame. I would think this setup is fraught with
> > frustration.
> >
> > So, emacspeak with that DEC Talk is probably his smartest option
> > right now, with the telnet as a back up to avoid rebooting.
> >
> > I have also suggest yasr and eflite, but he's insisting on
> > nothing less than Eloquence for free, so the DEC Talk is probably
> > the best compromise.
> >
> > Another option would be a better screen reader for telnet and a
> > better telnet client. That would mean a good DOS screen reader
> > like asap or Vocal-Eyes, assuming he can actually run DOS on that
> > Windows machine. Neither of those is very cheap, though, and
> > spending that much money would be dumb, because he could get a
> > good Doubletalk for less than the cost of that software.
> >
> > On Sun, 19 May 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> >
> > > We're all assuming he's using speakup since he's here. But from all
> of Tedy's comments in other posts, I am beginning to get the impression
> that he's not, since he seems to be asking for screen readers which
> support software tts.
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, May 19, 2002 at 10:58:09PM -0400, Deedra Waters wrote:
> > > > Try man < emacs|less then use the speakup keys to read line by line,
or
> > > > word by word if you wish. you can bring up the next page by hitting
the
> > > > space bar.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 20 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Please enlighten me.
> > > > > I never used the Jaws cursor in the new HTML help format under
> Windows.
> > > > > Select an item in the tree view, press enter, then press F6 and
> it will
> > > > > automaticly start reading that help item. It is a simple HTML
> file there,
> > > > > and it works exactly as simple as Internet Explorer.
> > > > > You don't need the Jaws cursor at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > You needed the Jaws cursor only for some bad designed help files
> in the old
> > > > > .hlp format.
> > > > > Now in the new .chm format, you don't have any problems.
> > > > >
> > > > > But this doesn't matter too much. Please tell me how to navigate
> the man
> > > > > pages.
> > > > > I type man mv, for example.
> > > > > It starts to print all the help file, but maybe I want to move
> with a page
> > > > > up then down, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know this is possible. Thanks.
> > > > > Teddy,
> > > > > orasnita at home.ro
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Shaun Oliver" <shaun_oliver at optusnet.com.au>
> > > > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 8:05 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > SNIP
> > > > > > > You open a window, and it explains you what you should do
there.
> > > > > > > You have to press the space bar to check some checkboxes, to
> press some
> > > > > > > buttons, etc, and if you don't know something, press
> shift+f10 (or the
> > > > > right
> > > > > > > mouse button and choose "what's this?" or press F1 to view
> the help file
> > > > > > > wich is much much more easier to navigate than the man pages
> under
> > > > > Linux.
> > > > > SNIP
> > > > >
> > > > > A fake.
> > > > > man pages under GNU/Linux are a lot easier to navigate than
> windows help
> > > > > pages.
> > > > > you need to route the jaws cursor to the pc and then fart around
> trying to
> > > > > find what you were looking for.
> > > > > even with the new features in jfw I seriously doubt you could
> navigate a
> > > > > help file easier than a man page..
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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