Lots of ogg/vorbis streaming around the world. You can check out my ogg stream at http://bumpy.braille.uwo.ca:9000/egoplay.ogg or egoplay64.ogg. BBC four is available in ogg all kinds of stuff. -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061