interesting experiment.

Mon May 20 01:04:45 EDT 2002

Have you tried Yasr? It is at the URL http://mgorse.dhs.org:8000.  On Mon, 
20 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote:

> Ok, I don't want to learn Emacspeak at all.
> I would like to be able to use a real screen reader but unfortunately it is
> not possible without a hardware sinthesizer which is expensive.
> I have one, but it is not supported by a real screen reader.
> 
> I would like to have a screen reader that starts at startup, which can be
> used to read the screen in pine, pico, lynx, and the command line.
> Is this possible without a hardware sinthesizer?
> Am I asking too much from the best OS?
> 
> Teddy,
> orasnita at home.ro
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 6:46 AM
> Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
> 
> 
> This is not an important problem. You have more important things
> to worry about than this.
> 
> Also, using emacs' terminal mode is probably not the smartest way
> to learn about emacs.
> 
> If you're trying to learn emacs, you shouldn't start with that.
> You're trying to run, and you haven't even learned how to crawl
> yet.
> 
> On Mon, 20 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> 
> > Of course, because that problem happend me for more times.
> >
> > I think I found a little problem but I am not sure.
> >
> > When it starts, emacspeak  tell me that message that it is functioning
> > normally (BTW. How can I change that message?)  and I don't care about
> that
> > message and I start pressing the normal shortcuts for launching the
> terminal
> > mode before it finishes the message. When I do that, the terminal doesn't
> > start.
> > If I let emacspeak to finish its message, I can start it.
> >
> > How can I stop the voice? What key should I press if I want to stop the
> > message?
> > I searched in the help file but I couldn't find it.
> > Teddy,
> > orasnita at home.ro
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 3:42 AM
> > Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
> >
> >
> > Octavian: You need to explain yourself.
> >
> > What is the meaning of "of course" in your message?
> >
> > What's that about?
> >
> > Also, why are you rebooting? That's your hangover from Windows.
> >
> > Get a clue. That's not the way to get out of trouble.
> >
> > Your emacs is probably working just fine, and you can probably
> > get back to your buffer list with c-x c-b
> >
> > Now, instead of whining at the first sign of trouble, why not
> > study how to use the program a bit? Have you read the tutorials?
> > What can you succeed with? Or, did you just come here to say:
> >
> > "of course"
> >
> > to us.
> >
> > I won't accept that. Not from you, not from anyone.
> >
> > On Sun, 19 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> >
> > > I press the keys for  launching the terminal mode under Emacspeak, I
> type
> > a
> > > simple ls command to test it, I won't hear anything of course, then the
> > > computer stopped speaking, and I need to reboot it.
> > > IS Emacspeak the problem? Is IBM Via Voice stopping?
> > > I don't know.
> > > Thank you for putting me to learn. <gee>
> > > Do you have a link to a text file with all the command lines used by
> > > emacspeak?
> > > I've tried that help, but I couldn't find how to set the speed of voice
> > > sinthesizer faster, nor how to read a text at once, not line by line.
> > > I also would like to know how can I skip the text when I read this way.
> > >
> > > In Windows, I can put the screen reader to read in "say all" mode and if
> I
> > > press the right shift, it skips a line and continue reading without
> > > stopping.
> > > If I press the left shift, it goes back with a line and continue reading
> > > without stopping.
> > >
> > > This is a good feature and I am sure it should be in Emacspeak also.
> > > However, I couldn't find it.
> > >
> > > I would also like to know if there is a kind of control panel for
> > emacspeak,
> > > where I can set all the variables, a configuration file, etc.
> > > Emacspeak starts with a text file which is not too big and I should read
> a
> > > lot of things before finding how to set the sinthesizer faster.
> > > And I don't  have the patience to listen how slowly it speaks.
> > >
> > > Teddy,
> > > orasnita at home.ro
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 6:17 AM
> > > Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
> > >
> > >
> > > No joke. Emacs is easier than Windows.
> > >
> > > Now, Octavian, stop belly aching and go learn how to do
> > > something.
> > >
> > > On Sun, 19 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> > >
> > > > Do you mean that using Emacspeak is easier than using Windows?
> > > > Nice joke. Really.
> > > > And ... without a hardware sinthesizer, with that IBM Via Voice that
> > likes
> > > > to crash so often, or other software sinthesizers hard to understand,
> > ...
> > > > Teddy,
> > > > orasnita at home.ro
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Ann Parsons" <akp at eznet.net>
> > > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 11:53 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Why don't you try Emacspeak and quit yawping!  There *is* a speech
> > > > output system that uses software speech.
> > > >
> > > > Ann P.
> > > >
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> > > > JRRT
> > > >
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