interesting experiment.

[Octavian Rasnita]

Are these programs free? Do you have a web site address  where I can
download them?

Thanks.
Teddy,
orasnita at home.ro

----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: interesting experiment.


Alex:

There's both ecasound and sox, and they're both very powerful.
But, they work very differetnly from Sound Forge and Cool Edit.
Also, their documentation is not professionally written, even
though it is professional quality software.

In the realm of sound creation, there's the very classic Csound
available for linux. This is the grand old synthesis ware that
has been the bread and butter of major electronic music research
facilities like carma at Stanford and Earcom in Paris.

On Sun, 19 May 2002, Alex Snow wrote:

> Is there any console based audio editors that work under linux? I've seen
> one listed on the speakup projects page, but it said that it was on hold
> because there were alternate solutions out there.  What are those
alternate
> solutions?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rich Caloggero" <rjc at MIT.EDU>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 3:08 AM
> Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
>
>
> > Yes, I must second on the music stuff. The only reason I use windows and
> > Jaws is that it gives me access to cakeWalk, a very powerful (and mostly
> > accessible) music sequencing and audio editing environment. Writing such
a
> > beast is very difficult, nontrivial, very f*cking hard, and takes many
> human
> > years to accomplish.
> > To be fair, some of this difficulty may have to do with its reliance on
> > Windows and its very ugly GUI programming (yes, its as ugly to develope
> > under as it is to use), and some of the complexity may have to do with
its
> > ability to deal with music notation, but its still a nontrivial task to
> > write such a beast. My feeling is that a console based sequencing and
> audio
> > package like cakeWalk won't ever be created, because sighted people want
> to
> > use a GUI. When gnome comes on-line for us, we may have more options in
> this
> > regard. I've heard of mixers and effects processors which are x-windows
> > based, but I'm not sure how well they work. I think there is a sequencer
> or
> > two as well for the X environment. The question is, are any of these as
> good
> > as cakeWalk? CakeWalk is a professional quality product in every way.
The
> > only thing nonprofessional about it is Windows!
> >
> > There is someone (Frank Carmichael, I believe) who has been working on
the
> > audio piece of this, so maybe he can chime in on this and tell me how
> *wrong
> > I am*! <smile>
> >
> > There is no way to create music the way I do without this program! It
sux,
> > but its unfortunately the case.
> >
> >                     Rich
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita at home.ro>
> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: 18 May, 2002 8:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
> >
> >
> > Are there any games accessible for the blind under Linux, like under
> > Windows?
> > Please tell me some web addresses.
> > Are there any good sound editing programs for Linux, like Sound Forge,
> Cool
> > Edit, Gold Wave, etc, and programs for creating MIDI music, like Cake
> Walk?
> >
> > Is there a text editor, that has macro features, Regular expressions,
the
> > ability to save in Windows/Mac/Unix format, etc?
> >
> > ... Just a few things that camed to mind.
> >
> > A lot of things are accessible, but ... harder to learn, harder to
> configure
> > and harder to use, if I am not so bright to remember 1000 command line
> > parameters.
> >
> > Thank you for the links.
> > Teddy,
> > orasnita at home.ro
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 9:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting experiment.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 18 May 2002, Darrell Shandrow wrote:
> > > I just wish Linux were
> > > a more viable general purpose workstation; I use Windows for that
> purpose.
> > >
> > Hi, Darrell:
> >
> > Just wondering what you think is missing from Linux' desktop
> > applications.
> >
> > In case this sounds loaded, it might be. The underlying question
> > might be: Is it your knowledge deficit, or is it Linux itself?
> > For my own experience in this matter, I've found it's my
> > knowledge deficit almost without exception.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

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