possible sollution

[Cecil H. Whitley]

Hi,
A group of researchers here accepted a public challenge to "crack" the cgmi
watermarking.  They were threatened with legal action when they went to
present their research at a convention.  Eventually they got to present
their research, but it was a painfull process.  Details can be found at
www.eff.org.

Given the "homelands security act", the dmca and the reluctance of the court
to intervene, i'm not sure that you can't get in trouble here for "just
talking" about something anymore.  That, in and of itself is a sad
commentary on the state of affairs.

Regards,

Cecil
----- Original Message -----
From: "brian Moore" <admin at bmoore.yi.org>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: possible sollution


> our copy right laws in Canada are not significantly different in many
> respects than those in the u.s.  this is one of my gripes with
> bookshare abut that is a separate issue.  we have the same provisions
> which allow for alternate format distribution but we still can't get
> access.
>
> I am no copy right lawyer but I would suspect that discussing how one
> might by pass a copy protection system is not strictly illegal, it
> might attract some unwanted attention.
>
> Brian.
>
>
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
>
> On 5/18/02 at 5:50 AM Octavian Rasnita wrote:
>
> >Is illegal in Canada to speak about cracks?
> >To speak, not to crack.
> >
> >Thank you for information.
> >Teddy,
> >orasnita at home.ro
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg at romualt.dhs.org>
> >To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> >Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 3:34 AM
> >Subject: Re: possible sollution
> >
> >
> >I agree. However, this list is on a machine in Canada. So ... Of
> course, I
> >don't know what the differences in such laws are between the 2
> countries.
> >Greg
> >
> >
> >On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 08:30:51PM -0400, Cecil H. Whitley wrote:
> >> *snip*
> >>
> >> > Hey Igor,
> >> > What you may want to look at is just doing a dump *snip*
> >>
> >> Can you please cease and desist with this on this list?  After all,
> there
> >is
> >> a DMCA for us here in the u.s.  This thread is quite possibly over
> the
> >line
> >> of what is legal within this country.  I for one do not wish to see
> this
> >> list banned and the site blocked and I assume that either or both
> could
> >> occur within the u.s.  Your cooperation is appreciated.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Cecil Whitley
> >>
> >>
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