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[Janina Sajka]

Hmmm, haven't heard of .clip. No doubt it somebody's idea of
market domination.

Have you heard of a file type with the extension .mpl. Speakeasy
has started using it, and it has made those pages break in lynx.
The W3C validator has nasty things to say about it, too. What I'd
like to know is what software company creates .mpl.

On Fri, 17 May 2002 jwantz at hpcc2.hpcc.noaa.gov wrote:

> Hi Janina,
> Hmmm, I never thought about bookmarking to get around frames--that's a 
> rather cool idea.  In some cases auto-redirects do present lynx with 
> problems--though normally you can follow the link.  Recently I have been 
> running into streams that won't play, they are normally called something 
> .clip.  Any ideas what they might be?I'm fairly sure I could find 
> something that would play them if I only knew what they were.
> 
>      Jim
> On Fri, 17 
> May 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:
> 
> > Hi, Jim:
> > 
> > I don't mind the way Lynx handles frames. In fact, I rather
> > prefer it on sites I visit often. I simply bookmark the
> > particular frame that I'm interested in. Saves me from slogging
> > through nav bars, mostly.
> > 
> > And, while tab and shift-tab don't take you from link to link in
> > lynx, up and down arrows do exactly that.
> > 
> > Tables that linearize properly seem to be OK from my view in
> > lynx.
> > 
> > And, of course, Lynx supports streaming very well.
> > 
> > So, what's missing? java and Javascript is pretty much it, imho.
> > 
> > On the other hand, IE can take an eternity to load a page. Very
> > annoying. Give me lynx for speed, please.
> > 
> > On Fri, 17 May 2002 jwantz at hpcc2.hpcc.noaa.gov wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi Janina,
> > > Well, Java support would be nice and it really should handle frames and 
> > > tables.  I do like the ability in Internet Exploder to be able to tab 
> > > and shift-tab through links.  At home though, the only thing I normally 
> > > use WINDOWS for is Kurzweil 1000.  I'd guess that I spend 98% of my time 
> > > on Linux.
> > > 
> > >      Jim Wantz WB0TFK
> > > On Thu, 16 May 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Heav en forefiend. 
> > > > 
> > > > I like lynx just as it is. I would hate to think it would ever
> > > > behave like Internet Explorer., That would be brain dead.
> > > > 
> > > > Now, one can wish for javascript support without emmulating IE.
> > > > Those two are not the same thing.
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 15 May 2002 jwantz at hpcc2.hpcc.noaa.gov wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > Well, there isn't anything to prevent someone re-writing lynx in such a 
> > > > > way that it would function the same as internet explorer in WINDOWS.  
> > > > > Except that it would be a lot of work of course.  I agree, Internet 
> > > > > Exploder will access more things than lynx.  We can only hope that 
> > > > > Netscrape will work better under Gnome than it does under WINDOWS.
> > > > > 
> > > > >      Jim Wantz WB0TFK
> > > > > On Tue, 
> > > > > 14 May 2002, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Also, you have to remember that just because we have access to a gui doesn't
> > > > > > mean it's going to be easy. How many times have i heard blind windowws users
> > > > > > complain that they did something but can't undo it or duplicate it because
> > > > > > they're not sure how they did it in the first place. Having a screen reader that
> > > > > > really allows you to sort out where you are and what you are changing or are
> > > > > > about to change would be vital.
> > > > > > My biggest concern for linux right now isn't gui per se; my biggest concern is
> > > > > > Internet accessibility. My main reason for being interested in Xwindows at all
> > > > > > is the hope of being able eventually to use a browser that will allow me to
> > > > > > access Internet sites that I cannot now access. I don't know if that is a
> > > > > > realistic hope, but that is frankly my main concern.
> > > > > > 
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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina at afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
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