Consensus opinion required - was 'more worms'

Wed May 15 21:35:24 EDT 2002

You're absolutely right.
I don't like Windows or Microsoft or Bill Gates, but Linux definitely has
problems.
It is a lot much harder to use than Windows.

If it would be  such a great OS, more people would use Linux not Windows.
And in addition, it is free.

Teddy,
orasnita at home.ro

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ameer Armaly" <Ameer_Armaly at hotmail.com>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 3:15 AM
Subject: Re: Consensus opinion required - was 'more worms'

Hi all.
What would you rather do.  Check checkboxes, or arrow through config files
(which make no sense att all!).  Everybody knows it, windows rules in the
sense that the non-programer can use it.  It also isn't dependant on
confusing drivers that are almost impossible to configure because of there
confusingness.  now, if linux were a little less unix-style in the sense
that it requires the time and patience of a programer, I would take a second
look.  My friend at ms agrees.  He used linux for 4 years, and says that
you're not very far in most areas than you were three years ago.  Also, why
should you have to use cat to print files.  There should be a simple "print"
command, like in dos (which is a lot more user-friendly than linux), and
these extreemely long and borring paths shouldn't be so cumbersome.  I
should know, zI like command-lines, but I'd rather type "print
/etc/httpd/conf/http.conf" rather than use cat.  Also, why not have html in
email.  It only makes it easier to go directly to a link rather than have to
copy it and past it into lynx.  Also, why should we have to use lynx anyway.
It at this stage is only an out-of-date piece of crap.  It can't interpret
java, activeX, vbs, and who knows how many other things that ie can.  Also,
you shouldn't have to wast your time working so hard on configuring the
right alsa drivers for your soundcard.  In windows, you just tell it you
have a sound card, and it just does the rest.  Also, home networking is
another issue that linux needs to improve on.  You need to compile support
into the colonel, and then do so many things to keep yourself from beeing
hacked. But in windows xp, I just answered a few questions, and voila! my
network was setup!  Now why can't linux be so easy?  Because there's no
profit for the people who are working on it.  They have no financial goal,
so most of them make really crappy software.  On the other hand, ms, who is
working for a profit, has a purpose and goal, so therefore they make good
software.
That's just my 2 cents.
Feel free to ask me to support it with a full-blown
windows-to-linux-back-to-windows convert, namely, A good friend of mine, who
will be glad to support my point.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow at gmx.net>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: Consensus opinion required - was 'more worms'

> If only winblows used simple config files... instead of having to find the
> right tab in those huge properties forms.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths at attbi.com>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 7:24 PM
> Subject: Re: Consensus opinion required - was 'more worms'
>
>
> Hi Alex. Check the security tab in internet destroyer. This is what I hate
> about integration! One thing affects another. I like the separation.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Snow <alex_snow at gmx.net>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Consensus opinion required - was 'more worms'
>
>
> > Hi All,
> > I use outlook depress to read email, since my linux box is still in
> pieces.
> > How can I stop active x controls and other code from launching the
files?
> > Norton catches them only after the file is opened.  Is there any way to
> stop
> > this?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths at attbi.com>
> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: Consensus opinion required - was 'more worms'
> >
> >
> > > Hi Kerry. Well said, no doubt on your statements. I remember the days
> back
> > > when plain text was perhaps the only method for sending e-mail (late
> 80's
> > > early 90's). Those were the good days!
> > >
> > > Gates go to hell, your OS is waiting for you there!
> > >
> > > On Wed, 15 May 2002, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Kerry,
> > > >
> > > > No question about it, things would be a whole lot better if
> > > > nobody sent html emails - I only wanted to point out that many
> > > > html emails can readily be handled by pine (and perhaps other
> > > > mail readers) and also that html email comes with and without
> > > > viruses as do plain text emails - banning html is no protection
> > > > against viruses.
> > > >
> > > > Chuck
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 15 May 2002, Kerry Hoath wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Chuck I should point out that certain versions
> > > > > of pine have contained buffer overflows in the html processing
> > elements
> > > > > and so did older versions of mutt and lynx.
> > > > > I am not taking a stand one way or the other regarding html
messages
> > > > > except to say that there are dangers in html;
> > > > > more so for Windows users than Linux ones but the Linux dangers
> > > > > exist as well.
> > > > > I don't mind html if there is an equivalent plain text section,
> > > > > but replying to html only messages causes me grief.
> > > > > I for my own reasons choose to send to mailing lists in plain text
> > > > > to minimize bandwidth usage and also message bloat.
> > > > > I encourage people to set their look out distress
> > > > > settings to send in plain text where possible but let it reply to
a
> > message
> > > > > in the format it was received in.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards, Kerry.
> > > > > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 09:16:13AM -0400, Charles Hallenbeck
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am still a pine user, and on my system pine reads html
messages
> > > > > > transparently, no problem. HTML has nothing to do with most
> > > > > > viruses. Executable attachments that launch themselves are the
> > > > > > real problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, 15 May 2002, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Since I've been using mutt to read my mail, I really haven't
> been
> > > > > > > affected either way with HTML mail.  When I used pine, it was
an
> > > > > > > annoyance but no more than that.  But I think I would favor a
> > blockage
> > > > > > > of HTML mail since the reasons sighted below and some people
> still
> > use
> > > > > > > windows mailers on the list; so go for it!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 07:48:26PM +0100, 'Georgina' wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi All
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Because of the use of html messages being used to transmit
> > Windows
> > > > > > > > viruses, I wondered if folks would agree to having list
> messages
> > > > > > > > restricted to plain text only?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The list owner will act upon whatever the consensus is.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Gena
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Have your say:
> > > > > > > > Blindness Advocacy and Self Help Online www.bashonline.org
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please don't send me MS Word documents, see
> > > > > > > > http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Personal Contact Details:
> > > > > > > > E-mail: gena at gena-j.net WWW: http://www.gena-j.net ICQ:
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