windblows, was: Re: interesting story

Gregory Nowak greg at romualt.dhs.org
Wed May 15 21:21:00 EDT 2002


Whos law or laws are we talking about here, Microsoft's?
Greg


On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 08:51:05PM -0400, Ameer Armaly wrote:
> Why not just save up and buy the support?  I know it's stupid, but it's
> legal.  I'd rather abide by the law, rather than have everything I wanted by
> getting it the hard way.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths at attbi.com>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:41 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
> 
> 
> Oh Well. Just goes to show you how crappy the registry is. Will have to
> check out jfw.cps in a hexeditor sometime to see if I can figure out what
> flag is set and modify it.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ameer Armaly <Ameer_Armaly at hotmail.com>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:18 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
> 
> 
> > it's not a reg key.  It's a flag in the auth file.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths at attbi.com>
> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
> > avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization, and
> > then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
> > tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will
> have
> > to search the various reg keys for that one.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Alex Snow <alex_snow at gmx.net>
> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > > So Do I.  Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT
> authorisation".
> > > Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg at romualt.dhs.org>
> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> > > Subject: Re: interesting story
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
> > informing
> > > me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths at attbi.com>
> > > > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > > > Subject: interesting story
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > > > >
> > > > >                       Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > > > >
> > > > >                   Complaints about open-source software policy
> reveal
> > > piracy
> > > > > rap
> > > > >                   in France.
> > > > >                   Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > > >                   Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > > >                   While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates
> the
> > > world
> > > > >                   over, the software giant itself was quietly
> > convicted
> > > of
> > > > >                   piracy charges in France last fall--and the case,
> > > while
> > > > >                   supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> > > > > business.
> > > > >                   The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine
> of
> > > about
> > > > >                   $422,000 for illegal use of another company's
> source
> > > code
> > > > > in
> > > > >                   an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
> > program
> > > has
> > > > > been
> > > > >                   used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in
> > Black,
> > > and
> > > > >                   Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > > > governmental
> > > > >                   buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain
> > about
> > > > > pirates
> > > > >                   when it is guilty of the same transgression.
> > Microsoft
> > > did
> > > > > not
> > > > >                   respond to requests for comment.
> > > > >                   Borrowed Code
> > > > >                   The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> > > purchased
> > > > >                   Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the
> 3D
> > > CGI
> > > > >                   animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired
> company
> > > was
> > > > >                   accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > > > proprietary
> > > > >                   program called Character, developed by the owners
> of
> > > Syn'x
> > > > >                   Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > > >                   In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> > > > > integrating
> > > > >                   parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D.
> > But
> > > the
> > > > > deal
> > > > >                   fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to
> > the
> > > > > code,
> > > > >                   according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995,
> > when
> > > > > Syn'x
> > > > >                   severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage,
> > the
> > > > > company
> > > > >                   assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > > > > Character
> > > > >                   from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > >                   removed only one part of the code, and retained
> > eight
> > > > > other
> > > > >                   functions that Character's developers had
> registered
> > > with
> > > > > the
> > > > >                   French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > > >                   After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > > Microsoft
> > > > >                   demanding the functions be removed, the company
> > filed
> > > > > suit. In
> > > > >                   1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid
> Technologies
> > > but
> > > > >                   remained responsible for the legal infringements
> of
> > > its
> > > > > former
> > > > >                   wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > >                   Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as
> a
> > > result
> > > > > of
> > > > >                   the case, the program's authors continued their
> > fight.
> > > > > Last
> > > > >                   September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France
> ,
> > > > > awarded
> > > > >                   Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> > Microsoft
> > > has
> > > > >                   vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > >                   Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > >                   Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
> > light
> > > only
> > > > >                   this week. The case was overshadowed at the time
> by
> > > the
> > > > > focus
> > > > >                   on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But
> recently
> > a
> > > > > Peruvian
> > > > >                   congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> > Microsoft
> > > > >                   contract.
> > > > >                   Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
> > April
> > > > > with
> > > > >                   Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > > > > legislation
> > > > >                   there that would require any software used by the
> > > Peruvian
> > > > >                   government to be open source (or "free software,"
> as
> > > it's
> > > > >                   referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> > > protested
> > > > > the
> > > > >                   plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > > open-source
> > > > >                   software makes a software company vulnerable to
> > piracy
> > > of
> > > > > its
> > > > >                   intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> > mandates
> > > the
> > > > > use
> > > > >                   of open-source software by government agencies, it
> > > "would
> > > > >                   establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> > practices
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > >                   contracting and purchasing" of software by public
> > > bodies,
> > > > >                   Microsoft stated.
> > > > >                   Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > > > > Microsoft:
> > > > >                   "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> > others
> > > in
> > > > > works
> > > > >                   claimed as one's own is not a practice that has
> been
> > > noted
> > > > > in
> > > > >                   the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > > unfortunately,
> > > > >                   it has been in the area of proprietary software."
> He
> > > cited
> > > > >                   specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> > Commercial
> > > > > Court of
> > > > >                   France, "for violation of intellectual property
> > > (piracy,
> > > > > to
> > > > >                   use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
> > uses
> > > in
> > > > > its
> > > > >                   publicity)."
> > > > >                   Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> > outspoken
> > > > > critics
> > > > >                   of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> > urging
> > > > >                   authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
> > > copies
> > > > > its
> > > > >                   software. The company even went so far as to
> include
> > > an
> > > > >                   Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> > > customers
> > > > > from
> > > > >                   loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC.
> > The
> > > > > company
> > > > >                   amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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