Computer Science

[Gregory Nowak]

At my university, they teach c++ and fortran on sun-os. I think the later courses are taught in windows, but am not totally sure about that. In my high school structered programming and AP computer science ab classes were taught on macs with code warrior. In fact, I was the only one in a class of about 40 who used a windows machine for which I was envied by the mac haters. 

Amanda, when I used to live in the dorms for a year, I had a room mate like the people you describe. He was a senior in computer engineering, and was very full of and impressed with himself. Yet, he didn't know how to add a new hard drive to his computer. He thought you just plug in the ribbon, and your set. He was actually very astonished when his blind room mate along with one of his sighted friends did the job for him correctly (shy smile). Well, I think I've ranted and bragged enough.
Greg


On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 09:36:36AM -0500, Amanda Lee wrote:
> Nope, Unix, Mainframes aren't standard anymore.  The college grads we get
> these days at Verizon have no clue what Unix or Mainframes are all about.
> Everything is taught on a Windows-based Platform.  I believe JAVA is
> taught, probably Visual Basic, Maybe sometimes C Language but usually C
> Plus Plus which was actually abandoned in the project I work on for
> straight C Language.
> 
> I would think in the future though, there will be a change back to at
> least teaching Linux since it can run on a less expensive platform.  It's
> pretty disgraceful how the content of Computer Sciences education has been
> degraded and these kids coming out have an ego bigger than life and think
> they can take on the World in a day!
> 
> They really struggle when they can't understand how to program and the
> quality of code coming out is pretty awful.  There is even this mentality
> in the Corporate World which indicates that one can learn everything they
> need to on the job and yet they can't figure out why  there are so many
> problems with efficiency and the costs resulting from poor efficiency.
> 
> Amanda Lee
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 jwantz at hpcc2.hpcc.noaa.gov wrote:
> 
> > Hi Chris,
> > I'm not going to get involved in the "bookshare wars', but since you were
> > chastizing others on this list because most people use WINDOWS and not
> > linux, I think its only fair to point out that your computer science
> > department is very nonstandard.  Though I am a meteorologist, not a
> > computer science person, I know many computer science students in the past
> > and the present.  Teaching WINDOWS programming is very nonstandard.  I
> > would guess that at least 90 percent of the schools teach programming on a
> > UNIX variant of some kind.  In the past thre was a fair amount of people
> > using VMS.  However, a lot of beginning C and C++ classes did use
> > Turbo/Borland.  WINDOWS programming is much more difficult than UNIX
> > programming, so I suppose you are to be congratulated for making it
> > through such a tough curriculum.
> >
> >      Jim Wantz
> >
> >
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