seeking opinions on debian install

Wed Mar 13 20:19:35 EST 2002

Ameer, I think at least some of Matt's look at linux series is archived on 
the ACB Radio web site however I am not sure. I also think that Matt used a 
pobox address in edition to his crosswinds address but I don't remember 
what it was. I hope tis is helpful. Ed
At 11:48 AM 13/03/2002, you wrote:
>What ever happened to Matt's look at linux stuff on acbradio anyway? I
>learned a good deal from that series, and am wondering what happened to it.
>Also, he seems to have disappeared from his email address, because I emailed
>him a while ago and asked him and haven't got a reply.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ed Barnes" <ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca>
>To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:50 PM
>Subject: Re: seeking opinions on debian install
>
>
> > Hi there, thanks for sending this, I did download the mp3 files and
> > listened and was quite impressed with Matt's work.
> > I unfortunately however haven't yet put any of the things I learned into
> > practice by setting up a machine here though.
> > Thanks much.
> > Ed Barnes
> >
> > At 04:18 PM 10/03/2002, you wrote:
> > >Hi Ed.
> > >That's a similar setup as I got.  Except for the faster chip and larger
>hd.
> > >I would listen to this MP3 I found that walks you threw the installation
>of
> > >Debian.  It's at ftp://linux-speakup.org/pub/linux/goodies/audio-files
>and
> > >the file names are "debinstall_1.mp3" and "debinstall_2.mp3".
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Ed Barnes" <ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca>
> > >To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > >Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 10:54 AM
> > >Subject: seeking opinions on debian install
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi folks.
> > > >
> > > > A couple of weeks ago, shortly after I joined the list, I queried you
> > >folks
> > > > who are more knowledgeable regarding a partitioning strategy and some
> > >other
> > > > installation options as it pertained to setting up Red Hat 7.2
>(modified
> > > > speakup distro taken from speakup ftp site) on a pentium ii 233 mhz w
>64
> > >mb
> > > > of ram.
> > > >
> > > > This machine was to be composed of a bunch of old parts that I have
>here
> > >at
> > > > home along with some other contributions acquired from a friend who
>has
> > > > just recently upgraded.
> > > > Anyway, most of the more important parts were coming from my friend
>Jen,
> > > > I.E., cpu, case w 250 or 300 w ps, board, heat sink for chip, one of
>the
> > > > two Hds, and I think that is about it.
> > > >
> > > > Nevertheless, my collection of working comp parts here at home doesn't
> > > > include a socket 7 board and I haven't had any success finding one
>locally
> > > > so if I want to setup a temporary Linux box to play with til I am
>working
> > > > and can afford to buy another machine which is more powerful in all
> > > > respects, it probably won't happen til once I am done school and am
> > >working
> > > > at least close too permanently. Timeline gives that to being some time
>in
> > > > mid-Summer.
> > > >    So, despite the fact I have a few Pentium class chips around along
>with
> > > > loads of 72 pin sims, my temporary Linux box will end up being a 486
>dx 66
> > > > mhz w 16 mb of ram 16x BTC IDE cd-rom, and a 1.6 gb Fujitsu HD.
> > > >
> > > > I have done more reading including looking at the hardware
>requirements to
> > > > setup Red Hat 7.2 and Debian 2.2 r 2, the one with speakup built into
>it.
> > > >  From what I have read and given my marginal hardware at the moment I
>have
> > > > decided that Debian 2.2 r 2 "potato" would probably be my best bet.
> > > > I also read the Debian installation manual because I am a computer
>geek of
> > > > sorts and I don't know any Debian users round here and I don't want to
> > > > totally screw things up.  <lol>
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts, recommendations for or against what I've concluded so
>far.
> > > >
> > > > Due to the minimal hd size of /dev/hda I figured I would use one of
>these
> > > > partitioning schemes.
> > > >
> > > > /dev/hda 1.6 gb fujitsu hd
> > > > /dev/hda1
> > > > / 100 mb
> > > > /dev/hda2
> > > > /usr 700 mb
> > > > /dev/hda3
> > > > /var 400 mb
> > > > /dev/hda5 (this partition will be one of the ones created in as a
>logical
> > > > drive in the extended partition during Linux install, same goes for
>hda6
> > > > and hda7 respectively.
> > > > /tmp 100 mb
> > > > /dev/hda6
> > > >   swap 100 mb
> > > > /dev/hda7
> > > > /home 200 mb
> > > >
> > > >  From what I've learned from reading the Debian installation manual,
>would
> > > > work_std be the best setup kernel type for me to choose given my
>crappy
> > > > hardware? See the exerp I've copied from the manual below.
> > > >
> > > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > > Work_std
> > > > A more stripped-down user machine, without the X window system or X
> > > > applications. Possibly suitable for a laptop or mobile computer. The
>size
> > > > is around
> > > > 140 MB. (Note that the author has a pretty simple laptop setup
>including
> > > > X11 in even less, around 100 MB).
> > > >
> > > > <end snip>
> > > >
> > > > Also, the most comprehensive kernel choice given the low budget
>hardware I
> > > > have would probably be vanila wouldn't it?
> > > > See snip from manual.
> > > >
> > > > begin snip
> > > >
> > > > `vanilla'
> > > > The standard kernel package available in Debian. This includes almost
>all
> > > > drivers supported by Linux built as modules, which includes drivers
>for
> > >network
> > > > devices, SCSI devices, sound cards, Video4Linux devices, etc. The
> > >`vanilla'
> > > > flavor includes one Rescue Floppy, one root and three Driver Floppies.
> > > >
> > > > end snip
> > > >
> > > > The other option if you would think it more practical is simply create
>/,
> > > > /usr, swap partition, and /home, ditch /tmp and /var, increase size of
> > >/usr
> > > > to include  enough space for tmp and var dirs to be housed within
>/usr.
> > > > I would also not be boxing myself in as much with 7 tiny partitions
>using
> > > > this second scheme.
> > > > So, it would look something like this.
> > > > /dev/hda is a 1.6 gb hd
> > > > /dev/hda1
> > > > / 100 mb
> > > > /dev/hda2
> > > > swap partition 100 mb
> > > >      /dev/hda3
> > > > /home 100 mb
> > > > /dev/hda4
> > > >   /usr remaining space on 1.6 gb hard drive
> > > >
> > > > For hardware the 486 has as mentioned before the 1.6 gb hd, a 16x BTC
> > > > cd-rom which is jumperable, 16 mb 30 pin sim ram 4x4, isa or vesa ATI
> > >video
> > > > card don't remember which, and a 16 bit isa sound blaster card of some
> > > > sort. No nics in the box at the moment but I was going to add two 3com
> > > > 3c509 nics too.
> > > > Synth is an accent pc.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone have any thoughts on whether partitioning scheme 1 or 2 would
>be
> > > > vbetter and or anything else I've mentioned. Personally, the more I
>think
> > > > it over in my head, as a first-time installer of Linux with limitted
> > > > resources, I like scheme 2 better.
> > > >
> > > > I'd appreciate any and all advice anyone has to offer.
> > > > You can write to me directly at ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca or
> > > > edbarnes at superweb.ca, or reply on the list.
> > > > I've installed the Windows ver of Speak Freely as well til I get a
>Linux
> > > > box up and on the go so I could join you folks on the reflector to
>discuss
> > > > this if anyone would find this more convenient.
> > > > Is it still at: lwl.braille.uwo.ca:4074
> > > >
> > > > Thanks all and do have a wonderful Sunday.
> > > >
> > > > Ed Barnes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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