seeking opinions on debian install

Wed Mar 13 15:09:59 EST 2002

It seems easy enough to install, and I don't know what inaccessibilitys Matt
was talking about.  Doesn't seem much worse than the average winblows
program.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Barnes" <ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: seeking opinions on debian install


> Hi there, thanks for sending this, I did download the mp3 files and
> listened and was quite impressed with Matt's work.
> I unfortunately however haven't yet put any of the things I learned into
> practice by setting up a machine here though.
> Thanks much.
> Ed Barnes
>
> At 04:18 PM 10/03/2002, you wrote:
> >Hi Ed.
> >That's a similar setup as I got.  Except for the faster chip and larger
hd.
> >I would listen to this MP3 I found that walks you threw the installation
of
> >Debian.  It's at ftp://linux-speakup.org/pub/linux/goodies/audio-files
and
> >the file names are "debinstall_1.mp3" and "debinstall_2.mp3".
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Ed Barnes" <ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca>
> >To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> >Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 10:54 AM
> >Subject: seeking opinions on debian install
> >
> >
> > > Hi folks.
> > >
> > > A couple of weeks ago, shortly after I joined the list, I queried you
> >folks
> > > who are more knowledgeable regarding a partitioning strategy and some
> >other
> > > installation options as it pertained to setting up Red Hat 7.2
(modified
> > > speakup distro taken from speakup ftp site) on a pentium ii 233 mhz w
64
> >mb
> > > of ram.
> > >
> > > This machine was to be composed of a bunch of old parts that I have
here
> >at
> > > home along with some other contributions acquired from a friend who
has
> > > just recently upgraded.
> > > Anyway, most of the more important parts were coming from my friend
Jen,
> > > I.E., cpu, case w 250 or 300 w ps, board, heat sink for chip, one of
the
> > > two Hds, and I think that is about it.
> > >
> > > Nevertheless, my collection of working comp parts here at home doesn't
> > > include a socket 7 board and I haven't had any success finding one
locally
> > > so if I want to setup a temporary Linux box to play with til I am
working
> > > and can afford to buy another machine which is more powerful in all
> > > respects, it probably won't happen til once I am done school and am
> >working
> > > at least close too permanently. Timeline gives that to being some time
in
> > > mid-Summer.
> > >    So, despite the fact I have a few Pentium class chips around along
with
> > > loads of 72 pin sims, my temporary Linux box will end up being a 486
dx 66
> > > mhz w 16 mb of ram 16x BTC IDE cd-rom, and a 1.6 gb Fujitsu HD.
> > >
> > > I have done more reading including looking at the hardware
requirements to
> > > setup Red Hat 7.2 and Debian 2.2 r 2, the one with speakup built into
it.
> > >  From what I have read and given my marginal hardware at the moment I
have
> > > decided that Debian 2.2 r 2 "potato" would probably be my best bet.
> > > I also read the Debian installation manual because I am a computer
geek of
> > > sorts and I don't know any Debian users round here and I don't want to
> > > totally screw things up.  <lol>
> > >
> > > Any thoughts, recommendations for or against what I've concluded so
far.
> > >
> > > Due to the minimal hd size of /dev/hda I figured I would use one of
these
> > > partitioning schemes.
> > >
> > > /dev/hda 1.6 gb fujitsu hd
> > > /dev/hda1
> > > / 100 mb
> > > /dev/hda2
> > > /usr 700 mb
> > > /dev/hda3
> > > /var 400 mb
> > > /dev/hda5 (this partition will be one of the ones created in as a
logical
> > > drive in the extended partition during Linux install, same goes for
hda6
> > > and hda7 respectively.
> > > /tmp 100 mb
> > > /dev/hda6
> > >   swap 100 mb
> > > /dev/hda7
> > > /home 200 mb
> > >
> > >  From what I've learned from reading the Debian installation manual,
would
> > > work_std be the best setup kernel type for me to choose given my
crappy
> > > hardware? See the exerp I've copied from the manual below.
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > Work_std
> > > A more stripped-down user machine, without the X window system or X
> > > applications. Possibly suitable for a laptop or mobile computer. The
size
> > > is around
> > > 140 MB. (Note that the author has a pretty simple laptop setup
including
> > > X11 in even less, around 100 MB).
> > >
> > > <end snip>
> > >
> > > Also, the most comprehensive kernel choice given the low budget
hardware I
> > > have would probably be vanila wouldn't it?
> > > See snip from manual.
> > >
> > > begin snip
> > >
> > > `vanilla'
> > > The standard kernel package available in Debian. This includes almost
all
> > > drivers supported by Linux built as modules, which includes drivers
for
> >network
> > > devices, SCSI devices, sound cards, Video4Linux devices, etc. The
> >`vanilla'
> > > flavor includes one Rescue Floppy, one root and three Driver Floppies.
> > >
> > > end snip
> > >
> > > The other option if you would think it more practical is simply create
/,
> > > /usr, swap partition, and /home, ditch /tmp and /var, increase size of
> >/usr
> > > to include  enough space for tmp and var dirs to be housed within
/usr.
> > > I would also not be boxing myself in as much with 7 tiny partitions
using
> > > this second scheme.
> > > So, it would look something like this.
> > > /dev/hda is a 1.6 gb hd
> > > /dev/hda1
> > > / 100 mb
> > > /dev/hda2
> > > swap partition 100 mb
> > >      /dev/hda3
> > > /home 100 mb
> > > /dev/hda4
> > >   /usr remaining space on 1.6 gb hard drive
> > >
> > > For hardware the 486 has as mentioned before the 1.6 gb hd, a 16x BTC
> > > cd-rom which is jumperable, 16 mb 30 pin sim ram 4x4, isa or vesa ATI
> >video
> > > card don't remember which, and a 16 bit isa sound blaster card of some
> > > sort. No nics in the box at the moment but I was going to add two 3com
> > > 3c509 nics too.
> > > Synth is an accent pc.
> > >
> > > Anyone have any thoughts on whether partitioning scheme 1 or 2 would
be
> > > vbetter and or anything else I've mentioned. Personally, the more I
think
> > > it over in my head, as a first-time installer of Linux with limitted
> > > resources, I like scheme 2 better.
> > >
> > > I'd appreciate any and all advice anyone has to offer.
> > > You can write to me directly at ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca or
> > > edbarnes at superweb.ca, or reply on the list.
> > > I've installed the Windows ver of Speak Freely as well til I get a
Linux
> > > box up and on the go so I could join you folks on the reflector to
discuss
> > > this if anyone would find this more convenient.
> > > Is it still at: lwl.braille.uwo.ca:4074
> > >
> > > Thanks all and do have a wonderful Sunday.
> > >
> > > Ed Barnes
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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