seeking opinions on debian install

Alex Snow alex_snow at gmx.net
Wed Mar 13 14:58:49 EST 2002 

Yeah, I learned a lot about Linux from his series on acbradio.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths at yahoo.com>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: seeking opinions on debian install


Hi Ameer and to the rest of the listers. Yeah what did happen to Matt
Campbell anyway? I actually learned how to install Debian and stuff with his
series. Does anyone know his website? Because someone had mentioned it on
the list either this month or last, but failed to give the url.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ameer Armaly <Ameer_Armaly at hotmail.com>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: seeking opinions on debian install


> What ever happened to Matt's look at linux stuff on acbradio anyway? I
> learned a good deal from that series, and am wondering what happened to
it.
> Also, he seems to have disappeared from his email address, because I
emailed
> him a while ago and asked him and haven't got a reply.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed Barnes" <ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:50 PM
> Subject: Re: seeking opinions on debian install
>
>
> > Hi there, thanks for sending this, I did download the mp3 files and
> > listened and was quite impressed with Matt's work.
> > I unfortunately however haven't yet put any of the things I learned into
> > practice by setting up a machine here though.
> > Thanks much.
> > Ed Barnes
> >
> > At 04:18 PM 10/03/2002, you wrote:
> > >Hi Ed.
> > >That's a similar setup as I got.  Except for the faster chip and larger
> hd.
> > >I would listen to this MP3 I found that walks you threw the
installation
> of
> > >Debian.  It's at ftp://linux-speakup.org/pub/linux/goodies/audio-files
> and
> > >the file names are "debinstall_1.mp3" and "debinstall_2.mp3".
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Ed Barnes" <ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca>
> > >To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > >Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 10:54 AM
> > >Subject: seeking opinions on debian install
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi folks.
> > > >
> > > > A couple of weeks ago, shortly after I joined the list, I queried
you
> > >folks
> > > > who are more knowledgeable regarding a partitioning strategy and
some
> > >other
> > > > installation options as it pertained to setting up Red Hat 7.2
> (modified
> > > > speakup distro taken from speakup ftp site) on a pentium ii 233 mhz
w
> 64
> > >mb
> > > > of ram.
> > > >
> > > > This machine was to be composed of a bunch of old parts that I have
> here
> > >at
> > > > home along with some other contributions acquired from a friend who
> has
> > > > just recently upgraded.
> > > > Anyway, most of the more important parts were coming from my friend
> Jen,
> > > > I.E., cpu, case w 250 or 300 w ps, board, heat sink for chip, one of
> the
> > > > two Hds, and I think that is about it.
> > > >
> > > > Nevertheless, my collection of working comp parts here at home
doesn't
> > > > include a socket 7 board and I haven't had any success finding one
> locally
> > > > so if I want to setup a temporary Linux box to play with til I am
> working
> > > > and can afford to buy another machine which is more powerful in all
> > > > respects, it probably won't happen til once I am done school and am
> > >working
> > > > at least close too permanently. Timeline gives that to being some
time
> in
> > > > mid-Summer.
> > > >    So, despite the fact I have a few Pentium class chips around
along
> with
> > > > loads of 72 pin sims, my temporary Linux box will end up being a 486
> dx 66
> > > > mhz w 16 mb of ram 16x BTC IDE cd-rom, and a 1.6 gb Fujitsu HD.
> > > >
> > > > I have done more reading including looking at the hardware
> requirements to
> > > > setup Red Hat 7.2 and Debian 2.2 r 2, the one with speakup built
into
> it.
> > > >  From what I have read and given my marginal hardware at the moment
I
> have
> > > > decided that Debian 2.2 r 2 "potato" would probably be my best bet.
> > > > I also read the Debian installation manual because I am a computer
> geek of
> > > > sorts and I don't know any Debian users round here and I don't want
to
> > > > totally screw things up.  <lol>
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts, recommendations for or against what I've concluded so
> far.
> > > >
> > > > Due to the minimal hd size of /dev/hda I figured I would use one of
> these
> > > > partitioning schemes.
> > > >
> > > > /dev/hda 1.6 gb fujitsu hd
> > > > /dev/hda1
> > > > / 100 mb
> > > > /dev/hda2
> > > > /usr 700 mb
> > > > /dev/hda3
> > > > /var 400 mb
> > > > /dev/hda5 (this partition will be one of the ones created in as a
> logical
> > > > drive in the extended partition during Linux install, same goes for
> hda6
> > > > and hda7 respectively.
> > > > /tmp 100 mb
> > > > /dev/hda6
> > > >   swap 100 mb
> > > > /dev/hda7
> > > > /home 200 mb
> > > >
> > > >  From what I've learned from reading the Debian installation manual,
> would
> > > > work_std be the best setup kernel type for me to choose given my
> crappy
> > > > hardware? See the exerp I've copied from the manual below.
> > > >
> > > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > > Work_std
> > > > A more stripped-down user machine, without the X window system or X
> > > > applications. Possibly suitable for a laptop or mobile computer. The
> size
> > > > is around
> > > > 140 MB. (Note that the author has a pretty simple laptop setup
> including
> > > > X11 in even less, around 100 MB).
> > > >
> > > > <end snip>
> > > >
> > > > Also, the most comprehensive kernel choice given the low budget
> hardware I
> > > > have would probably be vanila wouldn't it?
> > > > See snip from manual.
> > > >
> > > > begin snip
> > > >
> > > > `vanilla'
> > > > The standard kernel package available in Debian. This includes
almost
> all
> > > > drivers supported by Linux built as modules, which includes drivers
> for
> > >network
> > > > devices, SCSI devices, sound cards, Video4Linux devices, etc. The
> > >`vanilla'
> > > > flavor includes one Rescue Floppy, one root and three Driver
Floppies.
> > > >
> > > > end snip
> > > >
> > > > The other option if you would think it more practical is simply
create
> /,
> > > > /usr, swap partition, and /home, ditch /tmp and /var, increase size
of
> > >/usr
> > > > to include  enough space for tmp and var dirs to be housed within
> /usr.
> > > > I would also not be boxing myself in as much with 7 tiny partitions
> using
> > > > this second scheme.
> > > > So, it would look something like this.
> > > > /dev/hda is a 1.6 gb hd
> > > > /dev/hda1
> > > > / 100 mb
> > > > /dev/hda2
> > > > swap partition 100 mb
> > > >      /dev/hda3
> > > > /home 100 mb
> > > > /dev/hda4
> > > >   /usr remaining space on 1.6 gb hard drive
> > > >
> > > > For hardware the 486 has as mentioned before the 1.6 gb hd, a 16x
BTC
> > > > cd-rom which is jumperable, 16 mb 30 pin sim ram 4x4, isa or vesa
ATI
> > >video
> > > > card don't remember which, and a 16 bit isa sound blaster card of
some
> > > > sort. No nics in the box at the moment but I was going to add two
3com
> > > > 3c509 nics too.
> > > > Synth is an accent pc.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone have any thoughts on whether partitioning scheme 1 or 2 would
> be
> > > > vbetter and or anything else I've mentioned. Personally, the more I
> think
> > > > it over in my head, as a first-time installer of Linux with limitted
> > > > resources, I like scheme 2 better.
> > > >
> > > > I'd appreciate any and all advice anyone has to offer.
> > > > You can write to me directly at ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca
or
> > > > edbarnes at superweb.ca, or reply on the list.
> > > > I've installed the Windows ver of Speak Freely as well til I get a
> Linux
> > > > box up and on the go so I could join you folks on the reflector to
> discuss
> > > > this if anyone would find this more convenient.
> > > > Is it still at: lwl.braille.uwo.ca:4074
> > > >
> > > > Thanks all and do have a wonderful Sunday.
> > > >
> > > > Ed Barnes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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