seeking opinions on debian install

Ed Barnes ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca
Tue Mar 12 23:50:52 EST 2002


Hi there, thanks for sending this, I did download the mp3 files and 
listened and was quite impressed with Matt's work.
I unfortunately however haven't yet put any of the things I learned into 
practice by setting up a machine here though.
Thanks much.
Ed Barnes

At 04:18 PM 10/03/2002, you wrote:
>Hi Ed.
>That's a similar setup as I got.  Except for the faster chip and larger hd.
>I would listen to this MP3 I found that walks you threw the installation of
>Debian.  It's at ftp://linux-speakup.org/pub/linux/goodies/audio-files and
>the file names are "debinstall_1.mp3" and "debinstall_2.mp3".
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ed Barnes" <ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca>
>To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
>Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 10:54 AM
>Subject: seeking opinions on debian install
>
>
> > Hi folks.
> >
> > A couple of weeks ago, shortly after I joined the list, I queried you
>folks
> > who are more knowledgeable regarding a partitioning strategy and some
>other
> > installation options as it pertained to setting up Red Hat 7.2 (modified
> > speakup distro taken from speakup ftp site) on a pentium ii 233 mhz w 64
>mb
> > of ram.
> >
> > This machine was to be composed of a bunch of old parts that I have here
>at
> > home along with some other contributions acquired from a friend who has
> > just recently upgraded.
> > Anyway, most of the more important parts were coming from my friend Jen,
> > I.E., cpu, case w 250 or 300 w ps, board, heat sink for chip, one of the
> > two Hds, and I think that is about it.
> >
> > Nevertheless, my collection of working comp parts here at home doesn't
> > include a socket 7 board and I haven't had any success finding one locally
> > so if I want to setup a temporary Linux box to play with til I am working
> > and can afford to buy another machine which is more powerful in all
> > respects, it probably won't happen til once I am done school and am
>working
> > at least close too permanently. Timeline gives that to being some time in
> > mid-Summer.
> >    So, despite the fact I have a few Pentium class chips around along with
> > loads of 72 pin sims, my temporary Linux box will end up being a 486 dx 66
> > mhz w 16 mb of ram 16x BTC IDE cd-rom, and a 1.6 gb Fujitsu HD.
> >
> > I have done more reading including looking at the hardware requirements to
> > setup Red Hat 7.2 and Debian 2.2 r 2, the one with speakup built into it.
> >  From what I have read and given my marginal hardware at the moment I have
> > decided that Debian 2.2 r 2 "potato" would probably be my best bet.
> > I also read the Debian installation manual because I am a computer geek of
> > sorts and I don't know any Debian users round here and I don't want to
> > totally screw things up.  <lol>
> >
> > Any thoughts, recommendations for or against what I've concluded so far.
> >
> > Due to the minimal hd size of /dev/hda I figured I would use one of these
> > partitioning schemes.
> >
> > /dev/hda 1.6 gb fujitsu hd
> > /dev/hda1
> > / 100 mb
> > /dev/hda2
> > /usr 700 mb
> > /dev/hda3
> > /var 400 mb
> > /dev/hda5 (this partition will be one of the ones created in as a logical
> > drive in the extended partition during Linux install, same goes for hda6
> > and hda7 respectively.
> > /tmp 100 mb
> > /dev/hda6
> >   swap 100 mb
> > /dev/hda7
> > /home 200 mb
> >
> >  From what I've learned from reading the Debian installation manual, would
> > work_std be the best setup kernel type for me to choose given my crappy
> > hardware? See the exerp I've copied from the manual below.
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > Work_std
> > A more stripped-down user machine, without the X window system or X
> > applications. Possibly suitable for a laptop or mobile computer. The size
> > is around
> > 140 MB. (Note that the author has a pretty simple laptop setup including
> > X11 in even less, around 100 MB).
> >
> > <end snip>
> >
> > Also, the most comprehensive kernel choice given the low budget hardware I
> > have would probably be vanila wouldn't it?
> > See snip from manual.
> >
> > begin snip
> >
> > `vanilla'
> > The standard kernel package available in Debian. This includes almost all
> > drivers supported by Linux built as modules, which includes drivers for
>network
> > devices, SCSI devices, sound cards, Video4Linux devices, etc. The
>`vanilla'
> > flavor includes one Rescue Floppy, one root and three Driver Floppies.
> >
> > end snip
> >
> > The other option if you would think it more practical is simply create /,
> > /usr, swap partition, and /home, ditch /tmp and /var, increase size of
>/usr
> > to include  enough space for tmp and var dirs to be housed within /usr.
> > I would also not be boxing myself in as much with 7 tiny partitions using
> > this second scheme.
> > So, it would look something like this.
> > /dev/hda is a 1.6 gb hd
> > /dev/hda1
> > / 100 mb
> > /dev/hda2
> > swap partition 100 mb
> >      /dev/hda3
> > /home 100 mb
> > /dev/hda4
> >   /usr remaining space on 1.6 gb hard drive
> >
> > For hardware the 486 has as mentioned before the 1.6 gb hd, a 16x BTC
> > cd-rom which is jumperable, 16 mb 30 pin sim ram 4x4, isa or vesa ATI
>video
> > card don't remember which, and a 16 bit isa sound blaster card of some
> > sort. No nics in the box at the moment but I was going to add two 3com
> > 3c509 nics too.
> > Synth is an accent pc.
> >
> > Anyone have any thoughts on whether partitioning scheme 1 or 2 would be
> > vbetter and or anything else I've mentioned. Personally, the more I think
> > it over in my head, as a first-time installer of Linux with limitted
> > resources, I like scheme 2 better.
> >
> > I'd appreciate any and all advice anyone has to offer.
> > You can write to me directly at ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca or
> > edbarnes at superweb.ca, or reply on the list.
> > I've installed the Windows ver of Speak Freely as well til I get a Linux
> > box up and on the go so I could join you folks on the reflector to discuss
> > this if anyone would find this more convenient.
> > Is it still at: lwl.braille.uwo.ca:4074
> >
> > Thanks all and do have a wonderful Sunday.
> >
> > Ed Barnes
> >
> >
> >
> >
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