free programming language

[Janina Sajka]

Pete:

I address this to you, because you've been posting a lot of "is ther a" 
kinds of questions here lately, but it really goes to all of us.

Can't we be a little smarter? There are fabulous search engines on the 
net, and they work very well in linux with assistive technologies. My 
favorite is:

	http://www.google.com

Wonderful things come on screen if you go to the text entry box and type 
in:

	basic programming linux"


Am I the only one here who knows how to use Google?

 On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Pete wrote:

> 
>   Is there a basic for linux?  It seems there are a lot of new things to
> learn whith using the command shell and scripts let alone learning to patch
> and compile source.
>   Pete
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <gnowak1 at uic.edu>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 4:19 PM
> Subject: Re: free programming language
> 
> 
> An ide or integrated development enviornment is a visual interface that
> automatically calls the editor, compiler, debugger ETC. without the
> programmer needing to learn commands to do theese things. In my experience,
> they usually don't prove to be very accessible, and it takes more time to
> use them then it does to just edit and compile the code from the command
> line. Ron is right about not getting tangled up in ides until you know the
> programming language well enough. I myself had the fortune of starting out
> with basic on the braille 'n speak, and then adding to that by using basica
> under DOS.
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 04:09:52AM -0500, Pete wrote:
> >
> >   What are ides?
> >   Pete
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ron Marriage" <marriage at seidata.com>
> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 8:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: free programming language
> >
> >
> > Having taught programming languages for over 30 years, I
> > figure to weigh in with my own 2 cents.
> >
> > First off, if you don't know a programming language now,
> > forget about the compilers, IDEs, etc.
> > You don't want to learn an IDE you want to know how to
> > program.  The skills that you learn will transfer to most
> > other languages.
> >
> > Basic is available in many flavors, pick one, so it's
> > interpreted, why should you care.  Believe it or not you
> > won't develope the newest MS office suite with it or with
> > any language you start out with.
> >
> > What you can learn though even with an interpreted language
> > is logic, methodology, and a background that will carry over
> > to more advanced languages, where you will have the chance
> > of doing something worthwhile.
> >
> > Tie yourself to an IDE now and you won't learn programming
> > ever.  You also won't develope anything more than what you
> > can do by pushing buttons.  An IDE is good only after you
> > learn how to program.
> >
> > Get basic, play with it a while, then try C or some other
> > higher language.
> >
> > Lots of languages out there and most work great for specific
> > things. Not eveything is done in C.
> >
> > After you have some basic skills, decide what it is that you
> > want to do.  You might realize then that the language you
> > want is much easier to decide upon.
> >
> > Ron
> >
> >
> >
> > Alex Snow wrote:
> > >
> > > I would use, and want to learn, basic, if there was a free Compiler
> and/or
> > > IDE for basic under winblows.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gregory Nowak" <gnowak1 at uic.edu>
> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 2:56 PM
> > > Subject: Re: free programming language
> > >
> > > > How about BASIC?
> > > > Greg
> >
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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina at afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

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