Questions about programs under Linux.

Fri Mar 8 20:27:52 EST 2002

Hi Anna. What distribution will you be using? I am currently working on configuring a Debian system. Most distributions come with C compilers, something you will use if you plan on installing Speakup. Most Linux software is sourcecode, so like Yvonne said, you can just mostly compile programs using configure make and make install. If you need any more help with linux, you can mail me at igueths at yahoo.com. Hope my information was of use, and good luck with installing and configuring linux!

Igor
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Yvonne Smith <yvonne at thewatch.net>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 8:26 PM
Subject: Questions about programs under Linux.

> Anna Schneider writes:
>  > 
>  > First, my understanding is that while Linux comes with some programs under 
>  > it, many other have to be downloaded off the web.  Is this correct?  
> 
> Umm, I think you'll find that linux is the same as most operating
> systems in that regard. In fact, most linux distributions, by default,
> come with more software than, say, windows or macOS. But no matter how
> much junk your distribution comes with, you'll probably have to download
> some software from other places eventually, yes.
> 
>  > Regardless of whether or not this is the case, I am curious about the 
>  > following:
>  > 
>  > 
>  > 1.  Does any virus protection exist for Linux and if so, what programs 
>  > would people recommend and how can I get them?
>  > 
> The easy answer is, there are no linux viruses, and don't worry about
> it. The slightly more complicated answer goes something like, There are
> *some*  viruses for linux in theory, and I think there have been some
>  trojan horse programs where people have downloaded a destructive
> program rather than the software they meant to download, but I've been
> using linux for years now, and it's never happened to me. I don't think
> you need to worry. Certainly none of the outlook viruses and soforth'll
> get in under linux.
> 
>  > 2.  I want to get the Emacs editor.  When I read some info on the 
>  > Emacspeak site, it sounded like there are a couple of different Emacs 
>  > packages available depending on what sorts of things I plan to do with 
>  > Emacs.  Do I have to go find the package I want and download it?  And 
>  > then, if I want to fill out my Emacs package even more, with the Dismal 
>  > Spreadsheet for example, do I have to go download it too?
>  > 
> Ok, emacs I'm better at, since I'm running emacspeak most of the time,
> not speakup. Once you've installed emacs itself, depending on what you
> want to do, you might not have to go any further. If you just want to
> use it as an editor, what comes with it by default will do fine. But
> there are a lot of emacs packages you can download to make the editor do
> different things. Yes, you'll have to download dismal. There's a
> sofisticated calculator called calc. There're two web-browsers native to
> emacs. That's only the tip of the iceberg. 
> All the stuff above you'll have to download and install, but unless you
> need any of those things immediately, you should probably cross that
> bridge when you come to it. Install emacs first, and then try to figure
> out what else you want it to do, and we can probably give you pointers
> to emacs packages. Although you'll probably be best to ask on the
> emacspeak list or even a general emacs list for that kind of information.
> 
>  > 3.  Are there ways to open Word and Excel programs in Linux?
>  > 
> Umm, that kind of depends what you mean. If someone sends you a word
> document, there are a couple of programs to turn it into text or
> html. Catdoc, antiword and wordview are the three that spring to mind
> off the top of my head.
> 
> excel spreadsheets are a bit more of a problem. I'm pretty sure I saw
> something to turn them into html or something like that on the wordview
> page, but I'd have to go do some more research, since I haven't really
> looked in a while.
> 
>  > 4.  Will I have to be compliling things before I use them and does Linux 
>  > usually come with these complers or do I have to go find them too?
>  > 
> You might have to compile software, depending on what you're looking
> for. A standard distribution usually has all that stuff in it. Using
> compiling a program consists of nothing more complicated that something
> like typing configure make make install. Unless something really weird
> happens, compiling most software is easy. there's usually a readme file
> in the archive for the program that tells you what to do to install it.
> 
>  > 5.  What is the most recent version of Lynx?  Is it considered to be 
>  > equivalent to Internet Explorer 4.0 or better?   This matters quite a bit 
>  > actually.  If I need another web browser in addition to Lynx, do any exist 
>  > for Linux?
>  > 
> Umm web browsers under linux for console users are a bit problematic. I
> don't think there's anything we can use under linux that I'd consider
> equivalent to ie4 or above. The things that are impossible for us under
> linux that you're likely to encounter are javascriptand activex.
> 
> Javascript would be useable if we could use x-windows, but we
> can't. Activex will probably never be useable, since it's a microsoft
> scripting language. I don't know if this answers your question. Again,
> you'll need to be a bit more specific about what you'll want to do.
> 
>  > 6.  And last I hope and this is just a point of clarification, when you 
>  > all talk about telnetting and ftyping and all that, you are doing from 
>  > your machines right?  Do you have to dial in first to do those things from 
>  > your machine or how does that work?
>  > 
> Telnet and ftp are generally used to connect from one machine to
> another. Almost certainly you'll want to be connected to the internet,
> unless you've got a network at home, and need to talk to other machines
> on your own network.
> 
> 
> > 
>  > Okay, I think that's everything for now.  Have to go start reading How To 
>  > documentation this weekend.
>  > 
>  > Anna
>  > 
>  > 
> 
> Hope some of this is some help. More of this will make more sense when
> you have the machine in front of you, and you're actually trying to do
> things. At least, it'll make slightly more sense, <grin>.
> 
> 
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