still having problem with telneting to rainmaker.wunderground.com

Janina Sajka janina at afb.net
Mon Mar 4 20:55:48 EST 2002


I wish I thought it were that simple, Greg, but it seems some;thing else 
is up from my perspective. The proof is that terminating the three leter 
city code with a Ctrl-char also doesn't do the trick. It's something else. 
You might want to see if there's some debug value for telnet that will 
write a lot of info to a file for checking this out. I think that's the 
logical next step. Something that a debug should pick up and identify is 
making this go wrong.
 On Mon, 4 Mar 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote:

> Yes, I just tried it with a shell account that I have on the university server. Not only can I get the forecast, but I also get the welcomming screen as well which I don't get here. Is this a cr/lf issue on my end (since that's what it looks like)? How do I set up my telnet program to terminate ends of lines correctly? Thanks Janina for the suggestion to use another shell account and for your kind offer if I didn't have a shell account.
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 10:46:46AM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > I get weather forecasts however I terminate--Ctrl-J, Ctrl-M, <enter>.
> > 
> > The error you get is an error I have seen from time to time. I suggests to 
> > me some server is being sourced for the data.  If there's some kind of 
> > load balancing going on, there may be some error in there vis a vis your 
> > domain. Do you have a shell account somewhere else you can test against? 
> > If not, I can give you one when I get my portable home again and you can 
> > try from my end.
> >  On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > 
> > > I've been doing it by hand all along. I only use a script to record what I'm typing, and what I get back so that I could send it to the list. That's the only script I use for this. I've also tried control j right after typing "chi", and got the same "network is unreachable" error as before. Have you tried this same exact thing on your end? What kind of results do you get? Thanks for your help, since nobody else here seems to be interested.
> > > Greg
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 09:59:49PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > Hmmm,
> > > > 
> > > > Can you try it by hand instead of by script? And, try out a few 
> > > > variations. Instead of <enter>, for example, give it a Ctrl-J after the 
> > > > city code.
> > > >  On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Script started on Sun Mar  3 20:45:54 2002
> > > > > gnowak1 at linserver:~$ telnet rainmaker.wunderground.com
> > > > > Trying 66.28.69.161...
> > > > > Connected to blackbird.wunderground.com.
> > > > > Escape character is '^]'.
> > > > > 
> > > > > (null)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Press Return to continue:
> > > > > 
> > > > > Press Return for menu
> > > > > or enter 3 letter forecast city code-- chi
> > > > > 
> > > > >      No data available.
> > > > > 
> > > > >                          CITY FORECAST MENU
> > > > >                 ---------------------------------------------------
> > > > >                 1) Print forecast for selected city
> > > > >                 2) Print climatic data for selected city
> > > > >                 3) Display 3-letter city codes for a selected state
> > > > >                 4) Display all 2-letter state codes
> > > > >                 M) Return to main menu
> > > > >                 X) Exit program
> > > > >                 ?) Help
> > > > >                    Selection:x
> > > > > x
> > > > > 
> > > > > Connection closed by foreign host.
> > > > > gnowak1 at linserver:~$ exit
> > > > > 
> > > > > Script done on Sun Mar  3 20:46:41 2002
> > > > > 
> > > > > Greg
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 09:05:24PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > > > Well, just for the heck of it, instead of changing the lines per screen, 
> > > > > > how about let's find out if you can get a forecast. Instead of c, try some 
> > > > > > three letter city code. What happens then?
> > > > > >  On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, Gregory 
> > > > > > Nowak wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > No, that's not my problem. I type the c to change the lines per screen, and I do type the numbers. If you look at the output I sent to the list, you'll see that my numbers come right after the enter your choice prompt. Perhaps you're missing that, because you don't listen to the line with the prompt and my typed number all the way, and just see the results of my choice on the next line instead of the number I typed.
> > > > > > > Greg
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 06:13:21PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > > > > > Greg:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I see your problem. You're hearing the list of options but missing that 
> > > > > > > > the server wants you to type in a number. So, you type 'C' and didn't get 
> > > > > > > > Canadian forecasts, but rather changing screen parameters. You need to 
> > > > > > > > type 2, that's the number two, for Canadian forecasts.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Or, if you know a three leter city code, you can just type that in. For 
> > > > > > > > example, type:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > yyz for Toronto
> > > > > > > > nyc for New York
> > > > > > > > dca for Washington DC
> > > > > > > > msp for Minneapolis, St. Paul
> > > > > > > > ord for Chicago
> > > > > > > > lax for Los Angeles
> > > > > > > > sfo for San Francisco
> > > > > > > > mco for Orlando
> > > > > > > > mia for Miami
> > > > > > > > den for Denver
> > > > > > > > atl for Atlanta
> > > > > > > > bos for Boston
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > OK, so I know a few codes ...
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I'm starting to really wonder if I'm doing something wrong, since everyone claims that they don't have this problem. I can telnet to rainmaker.wunderground.com (so whatever short term problem I had yesterday was temporary). But, I still can't access weather information through it. I'm including a script below of my attempts to do so.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Script started on Sun Mar  3 13:41:22 2002
> > > > > > > > > gnowak1 at linserver:~$ telnet rainmaker.wunderground.com
> > > > > > > > > Trying 66.28.69.161...
> > > > > > > > > Connected to blackbird.wunderground.com.
> > > > > > > > > Escape character is '^]'.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > (null)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Press Return to continue:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Press Return for menu
> > > > > > > > > or enter 3 letter forecast city code-- 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                  WEATHER UNDERGROUND MAIN MENU
> > > > > > > > >                 ******************************
> > > > > > > > >                  1) U.S. forecasts and climate data
> > > > > > > > >                  2) Canadian forecasts
> > > > > > > > >                  3) Current weather observations
> > > > > > > > >                  4) Ski conditions
> > > > > > > > >                  5) Long-range forecasts
> > > > > > > > >                  6) Latest earthquake reports
> > > > > > > > >                  7) Severe weather
> > > > > > > > >                  8) Hurricane advisories
> > > > > > > > >                  9) Weather summary for the past month
> > > > > > > > >                 10) International data
> > > > > > > > >                 11) Marine forecasts and observations
> > > > > > > > >                 12) Ultraviolet light forecast
> > > > > > > > >                  X) Exit program
> > > > > > > > >                  C) Change scrolling to screen
> > > > > > > > >                  H) Help and information for new users
> > > > > > > > >                  ?) Answers to all your questions
> > > > > > > > >                    Selection:c
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                 OPTION TO CHANGE SCROLLING TO SCREEN
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > >                 Select the number of lines printed to screen at one time:
> > > > > > > > >                 ---------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >                 1) 24 lines (default)
> > > > > > > > >                 2) 48 lines
> > > > > > > > >                 3) 60 lines
> > > > > > > > >                 4) Unlimited
> > > > > > > > >                 5) 12 lines 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                    Selection:4
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                  WEATHER UNDERGROUND MAIN MENU
> > > > > > > > >                 ******************************
> > > > > > > > >                  1) U.S. forecasts and climate data
> > > > > > > > >                  2) Canadian forecasts
> > > > > > > > >                  3) Current weather observations
> > > > > > > > >                  4) Ski conditions
> > > > > > > > >                  5) Long-range forecasts
> > > > > > > > >                  6) Latest earthquake reports
> > > > > > > > >                  7) Severe weather
> > > > > > > > >                  8) Hurricane advisories
> > > > > > > > >                  9) Weather summary for the past month
> > > > > > > > >                 10) International data
> > > > > > > > >                 11) Marine forecasts and observations
> > > > > > > > >                 12) Ultraviolet light forecast
> > > > > > > > >                  X) Exit program
> > > > > > > > >                  C) Change scrolling to screen
> > > > > > > > >                  H) Help and information for new users
> > > > > > > > >                  ?) Answers to all your questions
> > > > > > > > >                    Selection:1
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                          CITY FORECAST MENU
> > > > > > > > >                 ---------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >                 1) Print forecast for selected city
> > > > > > > > >                 2) Print climatic data for selected city
> > > > > > > > >                 3) Display 3-letter city codes for a selected state
> > > > > > > > >                 4) Display all 2-letter state codes
> > > > > > > > >                 M) Return to main menu
> > > > > > > > >                 X) Exit program
> > > > > > > > >                 ?) Help
> > > > > > > > >                    Selection:1
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >           Enter 3-letter city code: chi
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >      No data available.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                          CITY FORECAST MENU
> > > > > > > > >                 ---------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >                 1) Print forecast for selected city
> > > > > > > > >                 2) Print climatic data for selected city
> > > > > > > > >                 3) Display 3-letter city codes for a selected state
> > > > > > > > >                 4) Display all 2-letter state codes
> > > > > > > > >                 M) Return to main menu
> > > > > > > > >                 X) Exit program
> > > > > > > > >                 ?) Help
> > > > > > > > >                    Selection:4
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >      No data available.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >                          CITY FORECAST MENU
> > > > > > > > >                 ---------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >                 1) Print forecast for selected city
> > > > > > > > >                 2) Print climatic data for selected city
> > > > > > > > >                 3) Display 3-letter city codes for a selected state
> > > > > > > > >                 4) Display all 2-letter state codes
> > > > > > > > >                 M) Return to main menu
> > > > > > > > >                 X) Exit program
> > > > > > > > >                 ?) Help
> > > > > > > > >                    Selection:3
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >           Enter 2-letter state code: il
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Network is down. Try again later.
> > > > > > > > > il
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Connection closed by foreign host.
> > > > > > > > > gnowak1 at linserver:~$ exit
> > > > > > > > > Script done on Sun Mar  3 13:43:04 2002
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Is really no one else having this problem? If the answer to that question is that no one does, then is there something I'm doing wrong?
> > > > > > > > > Greg
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > 	
> > > > > > > > 				Janina Sajka, Director
> > > > > > > > 				Technology Research and Development
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> > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > 				Technology Research and Development
> > > > > > 				Governmental Relations Group
> > > > > > 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
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> > > > 				Technology Research and Development
> > > > 				Governmental Relations Group
> > > > 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> > > > 
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> > 				Technology Research and Development
> > 				Governmental Relations Group
> > 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> > 
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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina at afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

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