choosing a distro and version

Fri Mar 1 18:31:56 EST 2002

this is probably too late but I just go to DOS and use regular old FTP and I
get an image in  less than an hour.   goes pretty fast with Cable Broadband.

Amanda Lee

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ed Barnes" <ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: choosing a distro and version

Hi janina, I eventually successfully downloaded the images with no problems,
the main reason I don't usually use programs which support download
resumption is because I am now on cable and if I am downloading isoes and
such I usually set them to start before I go to bed here at home and if it
craps out it's no big deal, I just re-start it when I leave for school in
the mornings.
I also don't like Cute FTP, it's a question of personal preference in this
case, and it was the only client I bothered to familiarize myself with when
it comes to Windows-based anything in the ftp client arena.
I usually use ftp from the Windows DOS-box, the only thing I find
challenging, and I would guess others probably find this to be so
irregardless what command line utility they are using is remembering long
file names because they are becoming more and more common.
I downloaded Ncftp but haven't tested it out.

Thanks Janina and have a good week-end.
Ed Barnes

----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: choosing a distro and version

Two points:

1.) You should be dlwonloading from linux-speakup.org, and nowhere
else. Any other address you may have been given is now old news. Though
well-meaning people will still give out other addresses, this is now the
one to use, and the one that will stay for the forseeable future.

Using http, goto:

http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/images/

Or, use anonymous ftp at ftp.linux-speakup.org and cd to
pub/speakup/disks/redhat/images.

2.) If at all possible, use some kind of download software that
supports resuming an interrupted download. As you're discovering, this can
be an invaluable feature. ncftp for windows is one such client:

ftp://ftp.ncftp.com/ncftp/binaries/ncftp-3.1.2-win32.exe

There are others, such as CuteFTP at:

http://www.globalscape.com/download/index.shtml

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Ed Barnes wrote:

> Hi Thomas, I have all of the above, fast network connection, fast cdrw
> drive, etc, however; I discovered the red hat 7.2 cd images including
> speakup in the red hat site at linux-speakup and both times I tried
> downloading disk 1 of the i386 iso images both transfers died at about the
> 60 mb point, anyone have any thoughts as to why this happened.
> I didn't receive any errors on screen.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Ward" <tward at bright.net>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 3:54 PM
> Subject: Re: choosing a distro and version
>
>
> Hi, Ed. Well, I would suggest Red Hat 7.2 myself. If you have access to a
> high speed internet connection, and a cdrom burner there is a version of
Red
> Hat 7.2 on the Linux Speakup site that has Speakup already built in. It
has
> boot disks to help you with a self voicing install, etc.
> Red Hat was my first distribution, and still is my favorite distribution.
> Fpor newbies it has quite a lot to offer. The sound configuration tools,
> kudzu hardware maniger, and other configuration tools to help you get it
> going.
>
> Your partitioning sounds good. It would be a vary good idea to put /home
on
> /dev/hdb.  I will leave it up to others to give specifics on partitioning
> they use.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ed Barnes <ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca>
> To: linux speakup listserve <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:22 AM
> Subject: choosing a distro and version
>
>
> > Hi again folks, hope nobody is sick of hearing from me yet, if so, I'm
> > sorry.
> > nevertheless, I was looking at the speakup web site, in particular
> available
> > information on Debian and Red Hat Linux distroes.
> > I am debating choosing to setup either a Debian or a Red Hat system as
my
> > first Linux system
> > I have spoken with some Linux users locally and the general consensus
from
> > those who have used both distroes is that for a first-timer Red Hat
might
> be
> > an easier setup and that after I have successfully conquered setting up
a
> > Red Hat box I would have enough skill to conquer setup of Debian and/or
> > Slackware as desired.
> > Any thoughts?
> > The system which I was planning to use and dedicate to setting up Linux
as
> > its only operating system is a Pentium II 233 MHZ w 64 mb of ram and two
> > HDs, it has a sound blaster pro sound card, and it will have a Symbios
> Logic
> > pci video adapter or an Sys chip set based AGP though I am leaning
toward
> > using the AGP so as to be able to use the extra pci slot for something
> more
> > practical like one of the nics.
> > I know that I should create a min of three partitions, /home, /root, and
a
> > swap partition.
> > I have rough ideas of how big I want these partitions to be based on
what
> I
> > wish to do with the server from a functional point of view.
> > The two HDs are 1.6 gb and 2 gb in size respectively.
> > From a point of view of incorporating some level of fault tolerance in
the
> > system I was thinking the root partition and the swap partition should
go
> on
> > /dev/hda and the home partition should go on /dev/hdb.
> >         This would make system backup more convenient as I would only
have
> > to backup the /dev/hdb drive to save user data.
> > In the event that I do anything to cause the kernel to blow up I could
> > simply flatten /dev/hda and re-install it and re-create the user
accounts
> > whose data is still stored on /dev/hdb and or my backups.
> >   I was figuring that I would optimize hd space usage by using the 2 gb
> > drive as /dev/hda and use the 1.6 gb as /dev/hdb as I don't estimate
that
> my
> > system would have any more than 2 too 5 users, root, an user account,
for
> > myself, and one too three accounts that I might create to facilitate my
> own
> > fooling around and attempting to learn more about Linux aside from the
> > accounts which some Linux services, processes create after they are
> compiled
> > into the kernel and started.
> > I was also thinking of putting a min of two nics into the system so it
> could
> > be used to store a dynamic routing table for dns and create an ip subnet
> > mask so though I am paying for only one ip through my cable internet
> service
> > provider all the machines I have at home could both access the internet
> and
> > be accessed from the internet by me.
> > I know that steps to create an ip subnet mask and setup dns are well
> > documented at linuxdoc.org and I enjoy reading tech docs as required so
I
> > won't bor you guys with questions that have already been answered
> elsewhere.
> > I have read the readme files pertaining to speakup when it is installed
> with
> > both Red Hat 7 and 7.2 respectively and I already have copies of both
> > versions gotten directly from a Red Hat mirror.
> > Due to the fact that easy-to-use boot disk images are available for 7.0
> and
> > I don't need to modify any software which I already have other than
> > downloading the appropriate boot image and using rawrite to copy it to
> > floppy it seems that this would be the best distro to choose in my case.
> > In reading the speakup-related readme for Red Hat 7.2 it seems that I
> would
> > have to radically alter the CDs I already have to make it work with
> speakup
> > and I don't really want the extra work at the moment.
> > Lastly, for synths I have two Accents, a pc and an sa, a transport, and
a
> > BNS.
> > From the collective experience of others, is there one which is easier
to
> > get talking or which works better than any of the others given the ones
I
> > have available to me or is it just a question of me choosing the one I
> like
> > to listen to the most and choosing to use it over any of the others.
> >
> > In closing, thanks for reading, I'd appreciate any thoughts on what I've
> > written and guidance as to whether I am hitting a home run or if I am
very
> > much out in left field so to speak.
> > Any and all opinions welcome either sent to the listserve or to me
> directly
> > using either ed.barnes at janus.northatlantic.nf.ca or ebarnes at superweb.ca.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175

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