anti-word

[Gregory Nowak]

Amanda, exactly, exactly, exactly.
Greg


On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 12:43:23PM -0500, Amanda Lee wrote:
> They'd rather you:
> 
> "don't ask/don't tell!"
> 
> they simply do not care.  A pc is a tool to the masses and nothing more and
> they don't want to be troubled with the minutia of technical information.
> They want to push a button and see their results.
> 
> I'd personally like to do the same thing if I knew that my outcome is the
> same but it doesn't work that way when we aren't able to use our
> technologies to track in the same
> manner as able-sighted persons.  I have received more than one form
> developed in Word and it is the most hosed up piece o'junk! I've never
> received a Word Form which I can reliably fillout and, unless I used a
> Braille display, there was no way to determine where the data was being
> entered.
> 
> 
> I do not subscribe to the notion that just because a person who is blind can
> marginally interact with an application in Windows, that he or she must do
> so to conform with what those who are clueless about how we function in the
> first place.   If you can perform a task in Linux or  DOS more effectively,
> provided the outcome is the same, why spend more time doing it in Windows
> merely for the sake of conformity.  Performance is key not conformity
> because in this day and age, we are expected to accomplish more in less
> time.
> 
> Amanda Lee
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <gnowak1 at uic.edu>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 12:14 PM
> Subject: Re: anti-word
> 
> 
> > And how do you expect them to know about the other platforms if all they
> know about their windows computer is how to turn it on and off?
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 13, 2002 at 12:17:03PM -0500, Charles Crawford wrote:
> > > Hello Amanda, Janina and other interested listers,
> > >
> > >          Well, looks like the world of advocacy is impinging on planet
> > > Linux.  It is correct to point out that in the ideal there should not be
> a
> > > word processing standard imposed by a company, but as we all know, the
> > > sender of a word file getting a text file back might not see the world
> in
> > > the same way.  Don't you just hate it when that happens.  Smile.
> > >
> > >          I guess my view is that if word users want to communicate with
> > > those who don't use word, then they have to adjust to the realities of
> > > other computer platforms.  Consumer choice still has it's place!
> > >
> > > -- Charlie Crawford.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 11:09 AM 01/13/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >Amen! to that Janina!
> > > >
> > > >Amanda
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
> > > >To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > > >Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 11:06 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: anti-word
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Steve Holmes wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yes and if a word document is sent to you for your input and
> editing,
> > > >I'm
> > > > > > sure the original party would expect the thing to come back in
> Word
> > > >format
> > > > > > along with the built-in formatting, styles and such.  Some of this
> whole
> > > > > > anti Word sounds arogant to me.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I rather think it arrogant to presume everyone wants and reads Word.
> I
> > > > > regard it as arrogant to presume we all pay tribute to Microsoft. I
> > > > > further regard it arrogant to treat a proprietary, non-consensus,
> file
> > > > > format as some kind of standard.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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