howtos, was: Re: RH7.2 w/Speakup enabled

[Gregory Nowak]

Exactly, and that brings me back to my point, that not everything under linux is rocket science as Janina stated.
Greg


On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 07:00:57AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
> Thank God for those HOWTO's!!! If it weren't for the various HOWTO files,
> I would have had a much more dificult time learning and getting started
> with Linux.  First, it was the serial howto to get a second talking DOS
> machine connected to a linux box as a terminal, the eathernet and net3
> HOWTO's to get my networking going, and lately, I've referred to the CD
> writing HOWTO several times for reference.  I've learned a lot by reading
> these HOWTO's.  The only bad one I've seen so far was a mail thing that
> did not tell me much at all.
> 
> I think it may often be much easier to refer someone to a HOWTO rather
> than try and get into a long drawn out explanation via an e-mail list.
> For example, I don't use the ide-scsi parm to my kernel because I use
> modules so had to do things a bit differently when loading my modules.
> Frankly, I forget exactly what I did now but I can go back for reference
> to the HOWTO and my config files.
> 
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> 
> > Before I started with Linux, I was faithfull to M$ like everyone else. This meant that I used my burner with easy cd creator which was a nice and clean job (just install it, and bingo). However, out of all the terms you gave below, the only thing I knew about when I first used loadlin to boot zipspeak was ATAPI. If you would've mentioned to me cdrecord, /usr, /doc, ETC. back in thoes days, my answer to you would have been confusion and "ha, what are theese words"?
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 10:06:35PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > Well, I have /usr/doc/cdrecord/README.ATAPI. Guess you'd have to know what
> > > atapi is. Or what cdrecord is. Or what doc is. Or what usr is. Or ...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > >
> > > > Having an ide burner means that you need to know that you need to have kernel support for ide-scsi, and that you need to pass paremeters to the kernel in lilo.conf.
> > > > How are you going to know all of this? By reading the cd-writing howto. If this isn't rocket science, then please someone tell me what the howtos are there for, and why others besides myself on this list respond with "goo look at the cd-writing howto" whenever an innocent soul with an ide burner asks about writing cds in Linux?
> > > > Afterall, something that's not rocket science should be fully explanable via e-mail, especially on a listserv like this.
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 08:44:17PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > > What does having a scsi drive have to do with it? When I got my IBM
> > > > > Thinkpad with an IDE burner I simply made sure my kernel had scsi
> > > > > emmulation, and then added the switch to lilo.conf. It's worked like a
> > > > > charm always. So, I really don't understand your assumption at all. This
> > > > > is not rocket science.
> > > > >
> > > > >  On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Then you must have a SCSI drive, but not everyone does. You were lucky there.
> > > > > > Greg
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 09:48:56AM -0700, William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123 wrote:
> > > > > > > Heck, I never even read the CD-writing HOWTO.  I used a command-line
> > > > > > > similar
> > > > > > > to the one mentioned by Janina, and it just worked.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >           Bill
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Perhaps, perhaps not. But, that wasn't the subject. Burning from an iso
> > > > > > > > image was the subject.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sun, 6 Jan 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yes, but getting it all set up to work properly in the first place is a big pain, even if you follow along with the cd writing howto.
> > > > > > > > > Greg
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > 				Janina Sajka, Director
> > > > > 				Technology Research and Development
> > > > > 				Governmental Relations Group
> > > > > 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> > > > >
> > > > > Email: janina at afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175
> > > > >
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> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > 				Janina Sajka, Director
> > > 				Technology Research and Development
> > > 				Governmental Relations Group
> > > 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> > >
> > > Email: janina at afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175
> > >
> > > Chair, Accessibility SIG
> > > Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
> > > http://www.openebook.org
> > >
> > >
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> >
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> >
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