html mail...

[Janina Sajka]

When I first started using unix many years ago it seemed everyone was 
using either Pine or Elm. So, I'm sure there was feature competition 
involved. But, at some point elm development died out. It was my 
understanding that mutt picked up elm conventions, if not actual code, in 
some way. Certainly, they're both gpl.

Maybe it's time to start learning mutt.

 understanding that  On Sun, 3 Feb 
2002, Shaun Oliver wrote:

> um. janina,
> I thought pine was the decendant of elm?
> On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Janina Sajka
> wrote:
> 
> > Chris:
> >
> > Isn't ELM now stagnant? Hasn't the version been the same for years? If my
> > info is correct, MUTT is a descendant of ELM.
> >
> > On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Chris Peterson wrote:
> >
> > > I've never used mutt, but elm is pretty good...
> > >
> > > Thanks for the info on cursor tracking.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 5:24 PM
> > > Subject: Re: html mail...
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi, Pete:
> > > >
> > > > Attached herewith is my .pinerc file. You'll find your highlight tracks if
> > > > you use it. Of course you could set cursor tracking yourself and that
> > > > would do it as well, but someone was saying something about sharing. I've
> > > > shared this before, and I'm sure I'll be delighted to share it again. And,
> > > > if and when I get around to writing the filter for the char set warnings,
> > > > I'll certainly include them. And, if someone else figures that out first,
> > > > please share it. Etc.
> > > >
> > > > Now, if Pine was just GPL ... But it's not, so maybe it's time to try
> > > > mutt.
> > > >
> > > >  On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Chris Peterson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Well, that shows my ignorance of pine.
> > > > >
> > > > > I haven't used it for several years, but I just tried it out and had no
> > > > > trouble with reading html mail.  I also had no trouble reading it in
> > > elm.
> > > > >
> > > > > So, perhaps the better solution would be to distribute a version of pine
> > > > > with defaults that are screen reader friendly?  Supressing these
> > > warnings
> > > > > would be a start.
> > > > >
> > > > > Another thing I noticed, on the pine I was using, is that the cursor
> > > doesn't
> > > > > track the highlight bar so I can't use the read current line command to
> > > > > figure out what message I'm on in the message index...etc.  It seems to
> > > me
> > > > > that there used to be a way to toggle cursor tracking, but I didn't find
> > > it
> > > > > when I was playing around with pine 4.10 today.
> > > > >
> > > > > This would be a constructive way of trying to avoid these discussions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
> > > > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 4:52 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: html mail...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Chris Peterson wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Perhaps pine could even be modified to allow you to access links
> > > imbeded
> > > > > > > in an html message.  Thats where I find html to be really useful.  I
> > > > > > > like the fact that, in Windows, I can press enter on a url in a
> > > message
> > > > > > > and almost immediately access the page.
> > > > > > This has nothing to do with html, and this feature has been in Pine
> > > for
> > > > > > years now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, that's right, all those urls in Pine text messages are
> > > "clickable" as
> > > > > > the mousy crowd calls them.
> > > > > >
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> > > > Janina Sajka, Director
> > > > Technology Research and Development
> > > > Governmental Relations Group
> > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina at afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org