So much Windows Mailer crap on this list...

Brian Borowski brianb at
Fri Feb 1 13:41:00 EST 2002

Maybe they can't aford a modem, but they sure can adjust settings to reduce
crap in their out-going mail, and if they don't know how, then find someone
who can help get through the settings and change it.  The idea, that an
empty message from a standard windows email client contains about 2K of
nothing is just stupid and a waste...

Brian Borowski

On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote:

> Fortunately, this doesn't appply to me anymore since I got broadband. But, you know, hardware modems are not exactly cheap. Yes, there are some gnu/linux drivers for windows modems, but not everyone has a supported modem. So, if you'd like people on this list to be using pine, mutt, ETC. for their mail, take into consideration the fact that not everyone here can aford a new modem, or an expensive broadband connection.
> Greg
> On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 07:20:50AM -0500, Brian Borowski wrote:
> > I guess this has been discussed bofore, but I can't help doing it again.
> > Why do so many people use outlook and other Windows utilities to post to
> > this list?  It's understandable if you're a new user, but doing it for a
> > year or two, makes me wonder; if you're a Windows user and never want to
> > use linux to do your stuff; get off the list, and stop polluting it with
> > crap.  If you're a  windows user, and insist on posting (especially for
> > some of those high-volume posters), then change your settings so that we
> > don't have to se a couple of Kbytes of header, and shut off the damn html
> > repeat of your message that shows up at the end.  It may come as a big
> > surprise to some people, but when us people who use pine and other mail
> > readers have to go through hundreds of messages; we don't want to see
> > (hear) all that garbage; it's a nuisance, and it slows us down terribly,
> > just trying to get through the list.
> >
> > Also, I'm in complete agreement with the complaints about including
> > messages including messages, including messages within eachother until
> > things get huge; it's a waste of bandwidth, and time.  I also notice, that
> > some users seem to post multiple copies of their messages; please, have
> > pity on us who read our mail?  While I'm complaining:
> > Why do people include 50 or 100 lines of others messages, and then put
> > their one line comment about it right at the end of all that stuff?  My
> > advice, is that if you're going to include all that stuff, and have five or
> > ten words to say about; why not put your comment at the top, and save us
> > all that reading through stuff we've probably already seen before  so many
> > times?
> >
> > Brian Borowski
> >
> >
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