P.S., I am running w3, bbdb, vm, Rmoo, all of which have been speech enabled for emacs. I'm using the debian distro. Haven't tried dismal. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT