Hi all, Jude, there's a patch for the speakup so you can run emacspeak at the same time. Check with the techies. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT