html coding.

[David Poehlman]

actually, you went a bit beyond that and that was the point I was
addressing.  I do not disagree that fundamentals are important but let's
broaden the fundamentals to include some additional structural and
nabigational aids for users who may need them visually.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: html coding.


David, I don't understand you. My point was the suggestion to focus on
informational elements first and foremost. This is why I gave the
examples
I gave. Do you disagree with that?


On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, David Poehlman wrote:

> let's not forget <br>
> but don't condemn too quickly:
> <b></b> <i></i> <strong></strong> and what about the wonderful:
> <center></center>
> and the neat <hr>
> with it's possible attribs.
>
> Whilst I agree that style sheets are the way to go for massive
> effectiveness It can be hard to implement them propperly and simple
html
> without breaking any rules can go far in good stead.
>
> Also, there is nothing wrong with coding link colors by the numbers.
If
> we don't get this correct, someone will be telling us that we can use
> blue, green and read just like that which doesn't work well for most
> presentation tools.
> Enjoy!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina at afb.net>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:23 AM
> Subject: Re: html coding.
>
>
> There are a lot of disability no'no's in what you're talking about.
> Please
> try to be part of the solution, and not part of the problem on this
one.
> Look at http://www.w3.org/wai/ to learn the how, why, and wherefore of
> all
> of this. The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) took on accessibility in
a
> very serious way back in 1996. Since then, many brilliant minds from
all
> over the planet have worked to define good web practices. The output
of
> their efforts is in the uri I just gave.
>
> Essentially, the correct answer to your question is very short.
Display
> attributes ;should be handled by cascading style sheets. The html
itself
> should be informational, and not presentational. In other words, the
> information and how it looks have been seperated into two separate
> specifications in order to support alternate displays such as speech,
> braille, small screens, large print, different languages, etc., etc.
>
> So, consentrate on learning about parallel structures -- the <p> </p>
> tags; list items -- the <li> tag; ordered and unordered lists -- <ol>
> and
> <ul>; etc. Leave the presentational elements until you've mastered
> conveying information.
>
> OK, you did ask! <grin>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 17
> Sep
> 2001, Shaun Oliver
> wrote:
>
> > hi guys. I'm just starting out with raw coding of html.
> > is there a way I can do silly things like set the colours and
> formatting
> > atributes like bold, underline, etc?
> > thanks in advance.
> >
> >
> >
> > Shaun..
> >
> > Cat, n.:
> > Lapwarmer with built-in buzzer.
> >
> > Email: shauno at goanna.net.au
> >
> >
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Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina at afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper,
Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp

Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther
King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
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Learn how to make accessible software at
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