Lindows preview.

[Charles Hallenbeck]

The other thing is that wine will always be a version or two behind
windows, because windows  is a moving target and the wine makers are not
superhuman. And if the Lindows solution is to rely on wine to run windows
apps, they will only be able to run last year's apps at best.

Furthermore, if wine is the solution, why not just run a true Linux with
wine?
At least that package would be open source and you could fix it if it
breaks.


On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, David Poehlman wrote:

> no windows screen reader will work from my understanding because there
> are things deep in the core of windows that windows screen readers use.
> you might be able to use some of the primitive solutions but if msaa
> support is required, I wouldn't count on being able to use the software.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <gnowak1 at uic.edu>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 1:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Lindows preview.
>
>
> Would window-eyes work?
> Greg
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 05:08:30AM -0000, Saqib Shaikh wrote:
> > I personally consider it unlikely that JFW will work under
> Wine/Lindows.
> > This is largely because JFW does some rather, erm shall we say
> naughty,
> > things to get information from the screen.  Furthermore not sure that
> MSAA
> > would work.  However I am hopeful that Hal from Dolphin would work.
> This is
> > because Hal follows all the rules far more stringently, and so if Wine
> can
> > just capture all GDI system calls and translate them into Linux terms
> > there's no reason why it won't work.
> >
> > Saqib
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Thomas Ward" <tward at bright.net>
> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: Lindows preview.
> >
> >
> > > However, as long as you put thedependent dll files somewhere your
> screen
> > > reader can find them it might work.
> > > I had a problem some months back with a copy of JFW, and I managed
> to
> > badger
> > > Freedom Scientific into giving me the name of the dependancy dll
> files so
> > I
> > > didn't have to upgrade Internet Explorer everytime they got a whim
> to
> > > update.
> > > So there is a chance, although slim, that wine could support a
> screen
> > > reader.
> > >
> > >
> > >  ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jason" <unleet at qwest.net>
> > > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 12:10 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Lindows preview.
> > >
> > >
> > > > OK, here's the deal on "lindows"
> > > > It uses "Wine", a "Windows compatability layer" for linux. Wine
> requires
> > > X.
> > > > My best guess is that JAWS for windows won't run under Wine. I
> don't
> > have
> > > a
> > > > copy to test with myself, but knowing what I do about the way Wine
> > > seperates
> > > > programs from each other quite a bit more than Windows does I
> doubt the
> > > > needed "common ground" that JAWS depends on would be present.
> > > >
> > > > Oh yeah, as an aside, the version of Wine that lindows will ship
> with is
> > > > modified slightly; it contains significantly better support for
> DirectX
> > > and
> > > > OpenGL than the regular version of Wine.
> > > >
> > > > On a completely unrelated note, it could be possible to write a
> version
> > of
> > > > Wine that doesn't use X and simply dumps text to a console for
> speakup,
> > or
> > > > whatever else, to read. No, I'm not volunteering for that project
> :-P
> > > > But if anytone happens to want to start a project to hack X and
> the
> > > relevent
> > > > toolkit libraries into accessible submission, I'll join, I've even
> got
> > the
> > > > beginnings of a structure worked out for all of it.
> > > >
> > > > (hmmm.... this e-mail got a lot longer than I intended)
> > > >
> > > > On Tuesday November 27, 2001 02:35 am, you wrote:
> > > > > the same question occurred to me too.
> > > > > but it also occurred to me that if lindows is able to run both
> linux
> > and
> > > > > windows programs as suggested, would you not be able to run your
> > > > > existing windows screen reader as well as speakup?
> > > > > of course not at the same time <evil grin>
> > > > > I thought that the idea of lindows was to have a thin
> translation
> > layer
> > > > > for interpreting windows stuff.
> > > > > at least that's what I remember from what I've seen about it
> anyway.
> > > > > On
> > > >
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