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Steve Holmes steve at holmesgrown.com
Wed Nov 21 22:55:33 EST 2001


Well since I know perl (somewhat), I guess I could take this on. I still
got this synthesiser set up program sitting around here waiting to be
worked on but what's another project not done yet:). Guess I'll be lookin
for that perl client and see what I can do.

On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:

> Hi Randy
>
> On Wed, 21 Nov 2001, randy turner wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > hi chuck,
> > i went to the site but i am not sure what file to download.
> > can you give me a step by step because i am new to the program.
> > do i need to compile imcom?
> > it seems like i might need a library
> > for imcom to work, is this assumsion correct?
> > thanks for all of the help
>
> I recommend you go to the guy's development page and get his "latest
> nightly" package. Imcom is written in Python and requires an XML parser
> library called "expat" which usually does not come with Linux. I had to
> get that library from a link on the Imcom page, then get the Python source
> archive so that it could be compiled with the expat library. Although the
> imcom package is a source package, it does not have to be compiled,
> because Python is an interpretor and executes the source code as it is
> interpreted. You si;mply run the "make" command with the "install" option
> in the imcom directory.
>
> This whole process is very messy and I am beginning to think it might not
> be worth it. Imcom is highly accessible, that is the good news, but it is
> very limited in its features, and I am having a tough time getting it to
> perform consistently. The author was very helpful for the first 24-48
> hours, and fixed one nasty problem promptly, but problems still remain
> which I cannot identify as imcom problems or jabber problems. I guess that
> is life on the frontier.
>
> Text console client programs for jabber are scarce. I only see two on the
> website carrying a collection of clients: imcom is one and the other is a
> Perl script that _ONLY_ does group chat sessions. What the world needs is
> a quality text console client for jabber. All the protocol details are
> public domain, all the server documentation is online, the need is clear
> and pressing.
>
> Any programmers out there looking for an interesting and not overly
> ambitious project? I am sorely tempted.
>
> Right now what imcom does reliably is to create an account on a jabber
> server of your choosing, and perform roster management and message
> exchanges with other jabber users. The ICQ transports that tie jabber to
> the ICQ world either do not work or else imcom does not know how to
> interface with them. The Yahoo transport works on one jabber server but
> not on another, and I have in fact used it successfully to chat with Yahoo
> people, but imcom sometimes composes the "to=" field incorrectly producing
> error messages instead of conversations. But just sometimes!
>
> My current assessment is that imcom is currently the best there is for
> jabber, but it is not good enough to give us the breakthrough in instant
> messaging that it first appeared to provide.
>
> I hope I have not discouraged you from  proceeding. It would be nice to
> begin a small set of jabber folks to perhaps push the envelope a little.
>
> Regards - Chuck
>
>
>
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