Hi all, <smile> Yep, you're right there. I still think Emacspeak's terminal mode is dreadful, but I do love VM and W3. Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net ICQ Number: 33006854 WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT