speakup 1.0 and slackware 8.0

Gregory Nowak gnowak1 at uic.edu
Sun Dec 30 04:12:48 EST 2001


Yes.
Greg


On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 11:12:27PM -0600, Reinhard Stebner wrote:
> but will the iso have speackup in it?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Ward" <tward at bright.net>
> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 6:00 PM
> Subject: Re: speakup 1.0 and slackware 8.0
> 
> 
> > Hi, my comments are below in the body of your last message.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Reinhard Stebner <raydar at tamu.edu>
> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 12:26 PM
> > Subject: Re: speakup 1.0 and slackware 8.0
> >
> >
> > > > Slackware 8 does come with talking boot disks and kernel.
> > >
> > > The only thing I found on the speakup web site was slackware 7.1 with
> > > speaking boot disks.  Am I missing something?
> >
> > There are plenty of places to tget the 88.0 iso. Try:
> > ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackware/slackware-8.0/isos/install.iso
> >
> > >
> > > Thank you so much for your help it means a lot to me.  Here are some
> more
> > > newbee questions.  Could someone please explain how the man page works?
> > (by
> > > taking a man page and saying what all of the  [] {} and <> mean in
> > context?
> > >
> >
> > The man page program is the help system for Linux. It works a site better
> > than Windows help, because you can jump strait to a specific topic.
> > The book Red Hat Unleashed 4.0 which is in etext at
> > http://www.blindprogramming.com has a good introduction to using man
> >
> > > How dows one read one screen at a time instead of one line at a time?
> >
> > If you are in an app such as pico a page up and page down will do this
> using
> > the page scrole keys located on the six key block next to the backspace
> key.
> > In man the spacebar takes you to the next page, and to review that page
> > press the plus key on the numpad.
> >
> >
> >  p> Is there a way to copy that page and save it and then braille out than
> > man
> > > page?
> >
> > Well, I'd have the entire manual entry converted into a text file, save
> it,
> > and then if you wanted it in braille you'd have to configure a braille
> > printer under Linux.
> > If you want it in grade two then you'd have to setup something like
> megadots
> > for dos using the dosemu program.
> >
> > >
> > > Is there any way to have a braille device working with speakup?
> >
> > Not that I am aware of. However, there is an application called Brailletty
> > that gives braille display support for the consol. You could try it and
> see
> > how it works.
> >
> > >
> > > Where can I find more docs on the proper feeding and care of my new os?
> >
> > Well, there are many books and docs out there. For one see the
> documentation
> > cd found in the Red Hat 7.2 directory on the Speakup site.
> > Also I have a book called Slackware Unleashed which is aging, but still is
> a
> > great book for beginners.
> >
> > >
> > > What about speakup (see last quesion).
> > >
> > > How hard is it to find documentation on programming un unix/linux?
> > > Is it quite differant from programming under dos?
> >
> > There are a handful of books that deal with Linux specific programming.
> They
> > are all made by Sam's publishing. Teach Yourself Linux C++ programming in
> 21
> > days, Teach yourself Linux C programming in 24 hours, and teach yourself
> > gtk+ programming in 21 days.
> > I've been trying to get Sam's to make some etext copies for the blind, but
> > so far no budge. So I've been forced to scan them, and they are not to
> clean
> > scanned.
> > However, if you know c or C++ well enough programming in Linux is not that
> > much different than in dos.
> > There is also the perl language which is vary portible across platforms,
> and
> > > gtk+ is going to become vary useful to us as Gnopernicus nears
> completion.
> >
> > > Final quesion, what are some do and don'ts when comming to:
> > >
> > > 1) installing and setting up the os
> >
> > Well, I'd put Linux on it's own computer if possible. I find it just
> easier
> > than having to manage a multiboot. If not possible i use a drive drawer
> > system that allows me to remove my Linux drive, insert a Windows drive,
> and
> > switch between os's simply and without alot of fuss making a multiboot.
> >
> > > 2) running the os
> >
> > Linux is pretty tuff. You should always practice stuff as a normal user,
> and
> > not get in a habbit of doing things as root. Being root all the time leads
> > to problems if you are not careful.
> > I remember a friend of mine was going to remove a file from his /etc
> folder
> > and typed something like:
> > rm -rf *
> > Before he thought about what he was doing, and where he was, and he smoked
> > his entire system. Caution as root is vary wize.
> >
> >
> > > 3) upgrading
> >
> > When I upgrade I typically just do a from scratch install, but it is not
> > necessary. You can upgrade any applications or system files you want, but
> I
> > tend to update the entire distribution when it comes out.
> >
> > > 4) speakups limitations when comming to the operating this os?
> >
> > Speakup is not a bad tts app, but it's biggest draw back is it will not
> give
> > you any speech access to the x-Windows server, x applications, or anything
> > with alot of graphical widgits.
> > However, Gnopernicus will be able to do that once it is finished, and
> > released with Gnome 2.0.
> > Speakup also has a problem with announcing which menu item it is on. In
> > programs such as links it will often announce the link aabove the one you
> > are on, or when going throu a menu driven tool such as linuxconf it will
> say
> > the item above the one you are on, and then the one you are on.
> >
> > If anyone knows how to fix this behavior please let me know.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Thank you once again for your willingness to help me out.
> > >
> >
> > No problem.
> > >
> > >
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