snapshot speakup survey

[Janina Sajka]

Hi, Georgina:

Thanks for your substantive response. I think it is, in fact, about what I 
expected.

I would agree that more communications could avoid such issues. So, next 
time, how about we trial potential survey instruments before taking them 
live?

 On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Georgina wrote:

> Hi
> 
> Thanks for your comments, perhaps it might have been appropriate to discuss
> some of these matters off the list.
> 
> Regarding the school college university question.  Here in the UK, school
> means under 16 years old.  Thus it is a very crude tool about the age of the
> user.  Plus here in the UK, Redhat are attempting to encourage schools to
> use Linux, thus if any of this activity had been filtered to a visually
> impaired person, it would show in the survey.  I just didn't want to
> discriminate according to age.  I thought that we had a regular 13 year old
> user?  This obviously raises the question that a glossary of terms should
> have been provided.  I'll do it next time.
> 
> On future development.  It certainly doesn't suggest that there's any
> intention to restrict support in the future, its a "snapshot" of the current
> position, nothing more or nothing less.  Say, for example, 5 users used
> Redhat, 30 users Debian and 100 Slackware and new installation disks needed
> to be produced for 2 or all 3 of them, at the same time you have a developer
> asking which job needs doing?  Thus this is a tool to help in the
> prioritising process.  Such tools are vital to the efficient progress of all
> projects.  If we know what the starting line looks like then we can run the
> race but if we don't know where it is we've got no chance.
> 
> I hope that the above answers some of your questions.
> 
> Gena
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin at braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin at braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: 03 December 2001 19:44
> To: speakup at braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: snapshot speakup survey
> 
> 
> No problems executing the survey here with lynx 2.8.4rel.1 (17 Jul 2001)
> 
> I don't see much in the way of accessibility issues with this form. I do
> have a couple of points, however:
> 
> Link elements should be clearly intelligible on their own--without any
> need to access surrounding text. UTRLs labeled "link," for example, are
> not good practice. The applicable WAI guideline is intended to support
> users who navigate through urls via various browser access technologies
> and may not have direct access to the surrounding text in the process;
> 
> The form itself does not validate with HTML Tidy. I did not try
> http://validator.w3.org, but would not expect a different result there.
> Valid html is, of course, the foundation of good accessibility practices
> on web pages, and I believe we should model what we preach as much as
> practical;
> 
> In the first question, "Where do you use speakup?," what is meant by
> "school" as opposed to "college or university?" In other words, wouldn't
> everyone checking off "college or university" also check off "school,"
> inasmuch as a college or a university is certainly a school by all
> accepted usages of English?;
> 
> What, exactly, is this survey supposed to discover? It perports to be
> about future developments, but only questions regarding curent use are
> asked. Are we to surmise that some users will receive support in the
> future, while others will not? Certainly this can't be the case. So, what,
> exactly, is this survey supposed to show?
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 				Janina Sajka, Director
> 				Technology Research and Development
> 				Governmental Relations Group
> 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> 
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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina at afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper,
Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp

Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther
King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at
http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp

Learn how to make accessible software at
http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp