altrasonics

Sun Aug 26 13:39:20 EDT 2001

Yeah, I've downloaded that too and had a look at it.
This is not what I would consider a usable x speech program.
Also, from what I've heard, development on it has stopped due to the lack of programmers willing to work on it, what a shame.  It looks promising if it would just get some more work done on it.
Greg

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Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2001 20:22:59 +1000

Hi there is an x screen review package but I've had god's own job getting it
to work.  it's called ultrasonix but as I said, I had loads of trouble trying
to get it to work.  I might give it a go again one day after I've finished my
studies but right at the moment, I've got alot on my plate.
Shaun..

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Nowak" <romualt at megsinet.net
To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca
Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2001 3:49 AM
Subject: Re: Hewlet Packard and Linux

> I don't think we'll see what
> you describe until there is an
> x speech server.
> This would of course give us the ease of use of windows
> (no more commands, just menus), and it would give us
> access to staroffice and other things.
> When that happens, Linux will be on an equal footing with windows
> (if not farther) in terms of speech access.
> Greg

> On Sat, Aug 25, 2001 at 11:28:36PM +1000, Shaun Oliver wrote:
>> I've been following this thread for a while.  and haven't decided to say
>> something until now.
>> I'm of the oppinion that linux as an operating system accessable to the
>> blind, is streets ahead of it's comercial counterparts.
>> I say this because as a user of both operating systems, I can see the
place
>> for both of them.  I find that windows in a normal office environment is
a
>> very powerful tool indeed.  However, if I could have the power of linux
and
>> the ease of use of windows all rolled into one, I'd be a very happy
camper.
>> I mean I'd like the nice frilly bits of microsoft word and excell and
all
>> that but right at the moment, I haven't seen gpl console versions of
either.
>> Linux is a great workhorse especially if you want to run it as a server
box
>> or as a firewall, but I want the durrability of linux with the ease of
use
>> of windows but I guess for now I'll just have to learn how to use linux
to
>> it's full potential.
>> Don't get me wrong here, I'm not complaining, just stating how I feel on
the
>> whole issue.
>> Shaun..

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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Charles Hallenbeck" <chuckh at mhonline.net
>> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca
>> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 10:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: Hewlet Packard and Linux

>>> Charlie and all -

>>> Your remarks about DOS are interesting - I was a DOS fan too and
actually
>>> never moved to Windows, except to support my Arkenstone Open Book
Unbound
>>> software.  My machine is presently a dual boot machine so I can se
Linux to
>>> get work done or else at boot time select DOS (I use the Caldera
>>> OpenDOS) to use my scanner software and one or two other legacy apps.

>>> If you remember when DOS was introduced in the early 80s, version 1.X
was
>>> a lot like CP/M; as it was revised to 2.X and then 3.X, it gradually
>>> became a lot more like Unix than CP/M, with a hierarchical file
system,
>>> batch files, and then later versions even had online help.

>>> Now that should tell you something: namely, that Unix was a mature
>>> standard for text consoles even in the early 80s when DOS was being
forged
>>> in Redmond.  Linux of course is an Open Source and contemporary
>>> implementation of Unix, and is therefore a decade ahead of the game
>>> compared to DOS.

>>> Linux is also a fundamentally dual personality system, with its GUI
being
>>> a robust add-on to the underlying text based console system.

>>> Linux was created as Open Source on the internet and is maintained and
>>> developed there.  It is a fundamental mistake to think of it in the
same
>>> market terms as the other major OS.  Of course there is no market for
Linux
>>> accessibility solutions.  But there are users and there is need, and
that
>>> need is being met by and large without benefit of market concepts.

>>> How do people make a living in the Open Source world? By selling
services,
>>> not products.  Products in the Open Source world are organic things.
They
>>> take root, they grow, they live or die on their merits, and they both
give
>>> to and take from their users.  There would be no Speakup if it were
>>> conceived on a marketing model of accessibility solutions,  trust me
on
>>> that one.

>>> So - don't worry about Linux, it is in there for the long haul.

>>> I was recently tempted to spring for a preinstalled Linux system when
I
>>> last upgraded, but opted for the "rolling my own" solution.  I am
convinced
>>> that if I had plunked down for a package deal I would have ended up
>>> overhauling it anyway.

>>> Will Linux ever be a mass market product suitable for the people who
check
>>> their email once a week and want their machine to do what they want,
and
>>> not what they say? Probably not.  There may always be a niche for a
>>> Windows-type OS with its closely guarded secrets and predatory
practices,
>>> with all the insides protected from meddling users and all the
decision
>>> details already made for them.

>>> Best regards - and welcome to the list!

>>> Chuck

>>> Visit me at http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh
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