Hi: This is true, Chuck. The other thing is that realaudio served this way is actually being served by a realaudio server as opposed to just off a web server. As such, because it's using a purposed-built protocol, it's very likely to stream much better than via HTTP. I guess it cuts both ways. Geoff. -- Geoff Shang <gshang10 at scu.edu.au> ICQ number 43634701